Will AI Kill Code Review? with Francisco Trindade, VP at Braze
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In this episode of Modern CTO, Joel Beasley speaks with Francisco Trindade, VP of Software Engineering at Braze, about the transformative impact of AI on software development—particularly the future of code review. Francisco shares his perspective that while AI has already begun to shift the bottleneck from code writing to code review, the real question is whether organizations can evolve their systems, processes, and codebases to enable AI agents to operate at scale without human oversight. He draws parallels to past tech shifts like microservices, warning that adopting AI without a clear problem to solve leads to failure, while a systems-thinking approach—viewing teams as interconnected systems—leads to sustainable innovation. Francisco also reflects on his own leadership journey, including early burnout from overcommitment and key lessons on incremental improvement and career development. He emphasizes that leadership is not about perfection but consistent progress, and that careers make sense only in hindsight, not in forward planning. The conversation underscores the need for strategic investment in codebase modernization and data-driven engineering to unlock 10x productivity gains in the AI era.
AI is shifting the bottleneck from code writing to code review, making process optimization critical.
Adopting AI without a clear problem to solve—like jumping on microservices trends—leads to failure.
Leadership success comes from systems thinking: viewing teams as interconnected systems across people, product, and technology.
Incremental improvement, not perfection, is the hallmark of sustainable leadership.
Careers are built through meaningful decisions, not five-year plans; they make sense only in retrospect.
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Introduction and Context: AI's Impact on Code Review
Joel Beasley introduces Francisco Trindade, VP of Software Engineering at Braze, and sets the stage for a discussion on whether AI will eliminate the need for human code reviews. Francisco shares his location in São Paulo and briefly touches on his upcoming book and leadership philosophy.
The Evolution of AI in Engineering: From V0 to V1
“The bottleneck has quickly shifted I think to like like code reviews. So I think like a lot of companies experienced the idea of like okay now reviews are a problem and reviews like are like the thing that we need to optimize.”
The 10x Future: AI Agents and Systemic Transformation
“The gain that you can get if you get there might be... 10x instead of, or 20x instead of like 2x. And I think that is, but if you don't start now and someone else does it before you, then like, then someone else is moving 10x faster.”
Lessons from Microservices: Avoiding Trend-Driven Failure
“The people that I've met that failed with it the hardest are the people that just saw it was a cool thing happening, and they saw this was the direction things were blowing in. And then they just jumped on it.”
Systems Thinking and Leadership: From Failure to Insight
Francisco shares a pivotal early failure—canceling a project after three months of planning with no code—leading to his embrace of systems thinking. He reflects on how this shaped his leadership philosophy and the importance of delivering value end-to-end.
“The gain that you can get if you get there might be... 10x instead of, or 20x instead of like 2x. And I think that is, but if you don't start now and someone else does it before you, then like, then someone else is moving 10x faster.”
“Careers don't make sense looking forward. It makes sense looking backwards.”
“The bottleneck has quickly shifted I think to like like code reviews. So I think like a lot of companies experienced the idea of like okay now reviews are a problem and reviews like are like the thing that we need to optimize.”
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