528 - In a Business Way

My Favorite Murder with Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark1h 11mApril 16, 2026

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In this episode of My Favorite Murder, Karen Kilgariff and Georgia Hardstark dive into two chilling true crime stories while also celebrating the podcast's network, Exactly Right Media. The first story centers on the mysterious 2006 disappearance of 27-year-old medical student Brian Schaefer in Columbus, Ohio, who vanished after a night of bar-hopping with friends. Despite extensive searches, surveillance footage showing him entering the Ugly Tuna Saloon but never leaving, and a phone that pinged towers for weeks afterward, no trace of him has ever been found. Theories range from accidental death in a construction site to a possible serial killer known as the 'smiley face killer,' though none have been proven. The case remains open, and the family continues to seek answers 20 years later. The second story explores the 1903 Van Meter Visitor phenomenon in rural Iowa, where multiple townspeople reported seeing a glowing, winged creature with a horn on its head. Over several nights, three residents witnessed the creature, leading to a townwide panic and a failed attempt to destroy its alleged lair in an abandoned coal mine. The mystery remains unsolved, with theories ranging from mass hysteria and misidentified birds to a hoax or even a real cryptid. The hosts reflect on the enduring power of unsolved mysteries and the emotional toll on families, while also highlighting the podcast’s growing multimedia presence and community-driven 'Hoorays' segment.

Key Takeaways
1

Unsolved disappearances like Brian Schaefer’s highlight the limitations of surveillance and forensic technology, even in the modern era.

2

The Van Meter Visitor case illustrates how collective fear and limited lighting can amplify perceived supernatural events in small communities.

3

Families of missing persons often become the de facto investigators, carrying the emotional burden long after official searches end.

4

Podcast networks like Exactly Right Media are expanding beyond audio, embracing video and merchandise to deepen audience engagement.

5

Community-driven storytelling—like the 'Hoorays' segment—can be a powerful tool for healing and connection.

Chapters
0:00
2 min

Opening Teaser: The Con Artist and the Girlfriends

I vowed I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves.

Highlight
2:00
3 min

True Crime Update: Gilgo Beach Serial Killer and Ted Bundy

It's the best news and the worst situation possible. There is no rest for the weary.

Highlight
5:00
5 min

The Van Meter Visitor: A 1903 Mystery in Rural Iowa

It's like they're at a fucking concert or something. They're pushing to the front.

Highlight
10:00
10 min

The Disappearance of Brian Schaefer: A 20-Year-Old Mystery

He just goes up into the fucking bar and disappears.

Highlight
20:00
10 min

Exactly Right Media Network Updates

The hosts celebrate new additions to their podcast network, including Jake Brennan’s Disgraceland and the new documentary series Trust Me, The False Prophet, linking to the real-life story of Lola Blanc.

High-Impact Quotes
We support you entirely. Sorry that this nation has turned the way it has.
Karen Kilgariff76:33
Viral: 90.0
They, them. Amazing! Alex, congratulations. It's good that you were patient.
Georgia Hardstark76:26
Viral: 88.0
I vowed I will be his last target. He is not going to get away with this. He's going to get what he deserves.
Karen Kilgariff0:14
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Hosts

Karen KilgariffGeorgia Hardstark
Topics Discussed
unsolved disappearance95%true crime podcasting90%cryptozoology85%podcast network expansion80%female solidarity75%grief and trauma70%media influence on memory65%nostalgia and food culture60%
People & Brands

Brian Schaefer

person

45xNeutral

Van Meter Visitor

other

32xNeutral

Exactly Right Media

organization

20xPositive

Gilgo Beach serial killer

other

18xPositive

Van Meter, Iowa

place

15xNeutral

iHeartRadio

other

15xPositive

Ted Bundy

other

12xNegative

Rorschach

media

12xPositive

Trust Me

media

10xPositive

Columbus, Ohio

place

10xNeutral

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