Briefing Chat: The tongue trick that helps sunbirds suck

Nature Podcast13mApril 8, 2026

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This episode of The Nature Podcast explores three fascinating scientific stories from the latest Nature Briefing. First, a groundbreaking study reveals that exosomes derived from pig semen can potentially deliver cancer-fighting drugs directly into the eye by temporarily opening tight junctions in the retina—a promising, non-invasive alternative to current treatments for retinoblastoma in children. The research, tested in mice and rabbits, shows tumor reduction and preserved vision, with potential applications for other hard-to-reach areas like the brain. Next, a deep dive into the 'motherhood penalty' in academia, based on a large Danish dataset, reveals that women with children are 29% less likely to be employed at universities eight years post-childbirth, with a 35% lower chance of tenure and 31% fewer publications—highlighting persistent gender inequities despite progressive parental policies. The study underscores systemic issues in work-life balance, especially around caregiving responsibilities. Finally, scientists uncover a novel feeding mechanism in sunbirds: using their uniquely shaped, partially transparent tongues to create suction against their beaks—making them the first known vertebrates to suck nectar solely through tongue manipulation, a discovery with potential for biomimetic engineering. The episode closes with gratitude to guests Lizzie Gibney and Flora Graham.

Key Takeaways
1

Pig semen exosomes show promise in delivering eye cancer drugs non-invasively by temporarily opening retinal barriers.

2

The motherhood penalty in academia remains severe, with women losing career momentum after childbirth despite supportive policies.

3

Sunbirds use a unique tongue-based suction mechanism to drink nectar—revealing a previously unknown feeding strategy in vertebrates.

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Biological discoveries like these can inspire future engineering solutions through biomimicry.

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Data-driven research is essential for identifying systemic inequities and guiding policy changes in academia and medicine.

Chapters
0:00
6 min

Pig Semen Eye Drops for Retinoblastoma Treatment

These exosomes are kind of allowing the treatment to get in?

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5:30
5 min

The Motherhood Penalty in Academic Research

Eight years after having the first child, women were 29% less likely to be employed at university than if they had not become a mother.

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10:00
4 min

Sunbirds' Unique Tongue Suction Mechanism

Sunbirds, they really do suck. But we mean that in the nicest possible way.

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High-Impact Quotes
Eight years after having the first child, women were 29% less likely to be employed at university than if they had not become a mother.
Lizzie Gibney5:59
Viral: 85.0
Sunbirds, they really do suck. But we mean that in the nicest possible way.
Flora Graham11:58
Viral: 80.0
The generous parental leave policies... actually offset the financial hit of that by 80%.
Lizzie Gibney10:01
Viral: 78.0
Speakers

Host

Benjamin

Guests

Lizzie GibneyFlora Graham
Topics Discussed
Gender Inequality in Academia92%Medical Innovation Using Biological Materials90%Animal Feeding Mechanisms88%Retinal Cancer Treatment85%Biomimicry in Engineering80%Childcare and Work-Life Balance75%Scientific Research and Data Analysis70%Transparency in Scientific Discovery65%
People & Brands

Lizzie Gibney

person

15xPositive

Benjamin

person

12xNeutral

Sunbirds

other

12xPositive

Flora Graham

person

10xPositive

Exosomes

other

10xPositive

Retinoblastoma

other

8xNeutral

Pig Semen

other

7xNeutral

Denmark

place

6xNeutral

Hummingbirds

other

5xNeutral

Tight Junctions

other

3xNeutral

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