Distracted... Again!
Noah Kagan confronts a crisis of focus and distraction head-on, revealing how he's been avoiding the hard work at AppSumo by gambling on NBA playoffs, obsessing over stocks, and chasing shiny new ideas. The turning point? Realizing that his distractions weren't just time-wasters—they were emotional escapes from a business struggling under the weight of his own expectations. What changed wasn't more hustle, but ruthless clarity: he identified the one thing that would move AppSumo forward—better deals—and committed to it with a tight, measurable plan for June. Along the way, he discovered AI as a surprisingly effective therapy tool, using it to process relationship stress and business frustration by simply talking through problems aloud. He also champions the underrated power of customer surveys, not to follow every suggestion, but to uncover what truly matters to users. The result? A renewed sense of control, relief, and confidence—not from doing more, but from doing less, better. The episode is a masterclass in how to cut through noise with intentionality, plan rigorously, and trust the process. The core lesson isn't about productivity hacks or AI tools—it's about emotional honesty. Kagan admits he's sacrificing time with his young kids to make this show, and that guilt fuels his urgency. But the antidote isn't guilt; it's a plan. When you're stuck, don't overthink—build a concrete, time-bound plan, run it by AI for feedback, and commit.
Distractions aren't just time-wasters—they're emotional escapes from hard problems. Recognize what you're avoiding.
The most powerful move isn't doing more—it's doing one thing better. For AppSumo, that was improving deals.
Use AI not as a therapist, but as a mirror: talk through your problems aloud and let it reflect back what matters.
Customer surveys aren't about doing everything users ask—they're about uncovering the core pain points that matter.
Clarity comes from commitment: build a concrete, time-bound plan and run it by AI for feedback before executing.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
The Confession: I'm Distracted by Gambling and Stocks
“I'm gambling on the NBA playoffs and it started slowly. I did it on the Superbowl. I was gambling on bad bunny songs and then it was a Superbowl itself. And then it was just like, it's a slippery slope, but I'm talking dollars.”
The Real Problem: Avoiding the Hard Work at AppSumo
Noah identifies that his distractions are masking a deeper issue: avoiding the core challenges of AppSumo. He realizes he’s creating fake progress instead of solving the real problem.
The Solution: Block Distractions & Focus on Return on Time
He shares his strategy: blocking distracting accounts on Twitter, creating a weekly summary, and reframing time as an investment with ROI. The core of AppSumo has the highest return.
AI as a Therapist: Talking Through Problems Out Loud
“It gave me two really good ones. You know, in my relationship, it talked about not keeping score and it talked about not saying certain words that might trigger my partner, my wife.”
Focus: The Power of One Thing That Moves the Needle
“If you could only do one thing to move the business forward, what's the one thing? And so within AppSumo, it was around making it easier to get products on our site.”
“So if you don't have a plan, send a survey. And once you get the survey, use it, put an AI, tighten your plan, have an end date, have some outcome within the plan that's focused.”
“And the core is, if you could only do one thing to move the business forward, what's the one thing? And so within AppSumo, it was around making it easier to get products on our site.”
“It gave me two really good ones. You know, in my relationship, it talked about not keeping score and it talked about not saying certain words that might trigger my partner, my wife.”
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Noah Kagan
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SendFox
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TidyCal
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NBA playoffs
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Michelle
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Hereford Lopez
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