Downstream: Is Liberalism Finally Waking Up to the Crises it has Caused? w/ Adrian Wooldridge
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In this incisive episode of Novara Media's Downstream, host engages with Adrian Wooldridge, former senior editor at The Economist and author of 'Centrists of the World Unite: The Lost Genius of Liberalism,' to confront the deepening crisis of modern liberalism. Wooldridge argues that liberalism, despite its foundational ideals of individualism, tolerance, and institutionalized diversity, has devolved into a self-congratulatory, ideologically rigid orthodoxy—what he terms 'double liberalism'—that merges economic neoliberalism with social permissiveness. This fusion, epitomized by the 'Bobo' (bourgeois bohemian) worldview, has led to catastrophic real-world consequences: the collapse of public infrastructure in cities like San Francisco and Vancouver, the rise of unregulated homelessness and drug epidemics, and the unchecked power of tech monopolies. Wooldridge contends that liberalism’s failure to confront these issues stems from its refusal to acknowledge its own historical sins—slavery, imperialism, and the exploitation of labor—while simultaneously dismissing the very real harms caused by its current policies. He calls for a revival of a more robust, morally grounded liberalism that recognizes the distinction between good and bad choices, values cultural continuity, and actively regulates powerful private actors, especially in tech and finance. The conversation culminates in a provocative challenge: if liberalism is to survive, it must abandon its self-justifying complacency and embrace a politics of responsibility, not just freedom.
Liberalism has become a self-justifying ideology that refuses to acknowledge its historical and contemporary failures, particularly around slavery, imperialism, and the erosion of public goods.
The 'Bobo' worldview—combining economic liberalism with social permissiveness—has led to real-world crises like unregulated homelessness, drug epidemics, and the deconstruction of individual agency by tech platforms.
The tech industry poses a greater threat to liberal democracy than autocratic regimes, as it undermines individual autonomy, attention spans, and democratic discourse through addictive design and misinformation.
True liberalism must be revived not through endless redistribution, but through targeted interventions: repealing Section 230, reforming antitrust laws to prioritize power over consumer prices, and regulating addictive industries like food, gambling, and drugs.
A renewed liberalism must recognize that individuals have 'higher' and 'lower' selves, and that society has a duty to guide people toward better choices, not just protect their freedom to make bad ones.
The Crisis of Liberalism: A System in Denial
“The last people to admit the crisis of liberalism it turns out are generally liberals. They're never to blame for anything.”
The Genesis of Liberalism: From Hobbes to the Enlightenment
Wooldridge traces liberalism’s roots to the 18th century, emphasizing its core tenets: individualism, tolerance, and the constraint of power. He argues that even authoritarian thinkers like Hobbes were foundational, as they grounded society in atomized individuals rather than divine right or tradition.
The Dark Shadow: Liberalism and Its Historical Sins
“It's definitely the case that some liberals supported, endorsed slavery because of property. Property rights were more important than everything else.”
Double Liberalism: The Bobo World and Its Collapse
“If you have this double liberalism, markets must prevail and people's choice of their lifestyle must prevail, and it leads to this, that's not a way of running a country, a republic.”
The Tech Threat: Deconstructing the Individual
“The liberal world was created with the rise of individualism in the 17th and 18th century, and it may well be the case that individuals are being deconstructed as we speak.”
“If you have this double liberalism, markets must prevail and people's choice of their lifestyle must prevail, and it leads to this, that's not a way of running a country, a republic.”
“The liberal world was created with the rise of individualism in the 17th and 18th century, and it may well be the case that individuals are being deconstructed as we speak.”
“The tech industry is the bigger threat. Not China, not Russia. The tech industry.”
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