Awe Psychology (WONDER) with Dacher Keltner
Awe isn't just a fleeting emotion—it's a neurological and psychological reset button that dissolves the ego, reconnects us to others, and combats loneliness. In this deeply personal and science-rich conversation, Dr. Dacher Keltner, a leading researcher on awe from UC Berkeley, reveals that the brain's default mode network—the hub of self-reflection, rumination, and anxiety—actually shuts down during moments of awe. This 'ego death' isn't a loss, but a profound gain: it allows us to merge with something larger, whether it's a starry sky, a mosh pit, a stranger's kindness, or a sunset with loved ones. Keltner shares that awe is not reserved for grand adventures; it thrives in small, intentional moments—listening to a song that brings tears, noticing a lizard at night, or even just pausing to smell a flower. His research shows that just one minute of awe a day can reduce anxiety, depression, and loneliness, making it a powerful, accessible tool for mental health. The episode dismantles the myth that awe comes from material wealth, showing that money, phones, and status rarely appear in stories of awe—instead, it's found in nature, music, moral beauty, and collective movement. Keltner’s own journey through grief and anxiety underscores how awe can be a lifeline, transforming pain into connection. Ultimately, awe isn’t a luxury—it’s a necessity for a meaningful life.
Awe reduces activity in the brain’s default mode network, dissolving the ego and reducing anxiety, rumination, and self-criticism.
Just one minute of intentional awe per day—listening to music, gazing at nature, or reflecting on moral beauty—can significantly reduce loneliness and depression.
Awe is not triggered by novelty alone; it arises when we encounter something vast that transcends our understanding, whether in nature, art, or human kindness.
Collective experiences like concerts, mosh pits, or farmer’s markets create 'collective effervescence,' where people’s bodies and minds sync, fostering deep connection.
Material possessions like smartphones, luxury cars, or designer clothes rarely inspire awe—true awe emerges from the sacred, the natural, and the human.
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The Awe Episode: A Long-Awaited Conversation
“It was worth the wait. And we're going to link his book on awe in the show notes as well as his website, and we'll have more links up at our website.”
Defining Awe: Vastness Beyond Understanding
Keltner defines awe as the feeling of being in the presence of something vast that transcends our current understanding of the world, emphasizing its ineffable and transformative nature.
Recognizing Awe: Facial Expressions and Vocalizations
The conversation explores how awe manifests physically—through dropped jaws, wide eyes, and high-pitched vocalizations like 'whoa!'—and how these signals are universal across cultures.
Awe as a Transcendent Experience: Beyond Joy
Keltner shares how awe is not always joyful—it can arise from grief, death, or existential wonder, and is central to meaning-making in life.
The Neuroscience of Awe: The Brain’s 'Ego Death'
“Lo and behold, in the brain, the me starts to disappear. And it's interesting that you can channel a little bit of that even with a walk.”
“Money did not figure into awe much at all. No one, he says, mentioned their laptop, Facebook. Apple Watch or smartphone, nor did anyone mention consumer purchases like their new Nikes, Tesla, Gucci bag or Mont Blanc pen.”
“One minute a day? Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, we work with health care providers for 21 days. One minute a day, we just said, stop everything you're doing.”
“There's just, think of all the lizards sleeping right now. That's awe I'm feeling.”
Host
Guest
Dacher Keltner
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Alie Ward
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Vrbo
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Jake Chafee
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Greater Good Science Center
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Charles Grobe
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Bay Area Freedom Collective
organization
Troy Allen
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