The Values Gap: What Do You Really Stand For?
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In this episode of On Brand, host Nick Westergaard welcomes Paul Ingram, Columbia Business School professor and author of *What Do You Really Stand For?*, to tackle the pervasive 'values gap'—where organizations espouse values on walls and websites but fail to live by them in practice. Ingram shares research-backed insights showing that most people lack clarity about their core values, and organizations often suffer from too many values, diluting their impact. He emphasizes that simplicity (limiting values to 3–5) and inclusivity in the values-clarification process are critical for authenticity and buy-in. The conversation explores how values fuel performance, resolve conflict, and enhance culture—not by eliminating tension, but by providing a framework to navigate it constructively. Ingram also highlights storytelling, concrete behaviors, and symbolic representations (like Slack emojis or archetypes such as Miles Davis at Eleven Madison Park) as powerful tools to operationalize values in daily work life. The episode closes with Ingram sharing his personal connection to the brand Etro, which embodies his value of creativity. Key takeaways include: (1) Limit organizational values to 3–5 to ensure clarity and impact; (2) Involve all team members in co-creating values to build ownership and authenticity; (3) Translate abstract values into specific, observable behaviors at the team level; (4) Use storytelling and symbolic icons (e.g., Slack mojis, personified archetypes) to make values tangible and rewarding; (5) Recognize that conflict is inevitable but can be productive when grounded in mutual respect for shared values. The overall tone is optimistic and empowering, emphasizing that values, when properly defined and lived, are not fluffy ideals but practical tools for leadership and brand strength.
Limit organizational values to 3–5 to ensure clarity, memorability, and operational impact.
Involve all team members in co-creating values to foster ownership and authenticity.
Translate abstract values into specific, observable behaviors at the team level.
Use storytelling, Slack emojis, and archetypes (e.g., Miles Davis) to make values tangible and rewarding.
Conflict is natural and can be productive when grounded in mutual respect for shared values.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
The Values Gap: Why We Say Them But Don't Live Them
“They live on office walls and about-us pages, but rarely in our decision making.”
The Research Behind Values Clarity
Paul Ingram shares findings from two decades of research involving over 10,000 individuals, revealing that most people are unclear about their top values and only occasionally reflect on them. He argues that the lack of clarity prevents values from becoming actionable tools in decision-making and performance.
Simplicity and the Right Process: Avoiding the 'Too Many Values' Trap
“Keep things as simple as they can be while still being true.”
Overcoming Skepticism and Building Buy-In
“We've got the data on our side in this case.”
Values in Conflict: Resolving Tension with Purpose
“We would always prefer our own values. Our own values, by definition, are the best in our view. But even people we conflict with are typically pursuing values that we can respect.”
“We would always prefer our own values. Our own values, by definition, are the best in our view. But even people we conflict with are typically pursuing values that we can respect.”
“They live on office walls and about-us pages, but rarely in our decision making.”
“Keep things as simple as they can be while still being true.”
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Paul Ingram
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Marketing Podcast Network
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What Do You Really Stand For?
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Columbia Business School
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Etro
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Slack
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Miles Davis
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