OB429: Slant Useful and Beautiful
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The hosts of Opposing Bases Air Traffic Talk tackle a passionate listener's defense of his 'slant uniform' aircraft—a non-GPS, VOR-capable Cherokee—arguing that such planes are not useless, but beautiful and operationally viable in today's NAS. The episode debunks the myth that GPS is mandatory for IFR flight, emphasizing that ground-based navigation remains robust, with VORs and Victor Airways still maintained by the FAA. The hosts reveal that GPS is vulnerable to jamming and spoofing, making a satellite-only future unlikely in the near term. They also explore the idea of replacing GPS with future tech like LiDAR or advanced inertial navigation, but conclude it's impractical for general aviation due to cost and data demands. A standout moment: a controller admits to blurted-out altitude assignments during emergencies, urging fellow controllers to pause and think before reacting. The discussion ends with a spirited debate on map orientation—north up vs. track up—where the hosts champion track up for real-time navigation, especially in low-altitude VFR flying, while acknowledging north up’s value for air traffic coordination and big-picture planning.
Slant uniform aircraft are still operationally viable for IFR flight via VOR airways and ILS approaches, despite lacking GPS.
GPS is not required for IFR flight in the near future, as the FAA continues to maintain the ground-based navigation network (MON).
GPS is vulnerable to jamming and spoofing, making a satellite-only future unlikely for safety-critical aviation.
Controllers should pause before issuing altitude assignments during emergencies—most emergencies allow time to think, not react.
Track-up map orientation is superior for real-time navigation at low altitudes, improving situational awareness and reducing cognitive load.
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Welcome to Opposing Bases & Weather Evacuation
The hosts open the show with a warm welcome, setting the tone for a casual yet informative episode. They recount a recent tornado warning that prompted an evacuation of the control tower, highlighting the safety protocols in place and the rare nature of such events. The hosts reflect on the psychological impact of emergency procedures and the importance of knowing where to go during a crisis.
Slant Uniform Aircraft: Useful, Not Worthless
“Your airplane is beautiful. We saw your pictures. Yeah, we're sorry. We're very sorry. I am sorry for the pain that I caused.”
The Reality of Non-GPS IFR Flight
The hosts break down the operational limitations of slant uniform aircraft: no RNAV routes, no DME, no GPS approaches. However, they stress that VOR airways and ILS approaches remain viable and widely used. They also discuss how controllers can adapt by using headings and vectors instead of direct fixes.
GPS Vulnerability and the Future of Navigation
“The military does not like that. Why? Right. What would they possibly be bothered by? Yeah, so if my deployments to Iraq and if – well, not so much Iraq but more Afghanistan was heavily GPS-reliant, we could have done it without it, but it would have been a significant workload increase.”
Map Orientation Debate: North Up vs. Track Up
“For navigating, I cannot imagine... I just am trying to put my head in that mode. At lower altitudes, where your relative speed over the ground, just your perceived speed is quicker, I cannot imagine having north up. It would get super confusing.”
“Your airplane is beautiful. We saw your pictures. Yeah, we're sorry. We're very sorry. I am sorry for the pain that I caused.”
“For navigating, I cannot imagine... I just am trying to put my head in that mode. At lower altitudes, where your relative speed over the ground, just your perceived speed is quicker, I cannot imagine having north up. It would get super confusing.”
“We're never going to assign a ground speed. Ever. That will never happen.”
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