Is Jordan Love Actually Being Held Back — Or Is Everyone Just Making Stuff Up?
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Ryan Schlipp of the Packernet Podcast launches a passionate rebuttal against the widespread narrative that Jordan Love is being 'held back' by Matt LaFleur and the Packers' offensive system. He dismisses the idea as baseless speculation rooted in emotion rather than evidence, calling out the constant use of unsupported assertions and 'feels' without data. Schlipp argues that Love is already a top-five quarterback in the NFL, with elite third-down performance metrics, including the highest EPA per play and a league-leading success rate. He emphasizes that the offense is Matt LaFleur’s system, not Love’s, and that the quarterback’s role is to execute the coach’s vision, not to be a free agent. Schlipp dismantles the myth of 'training wheels' by citing NFL data showing the Packers run the ball at league-average rates on first down and pass on third down at a competitive rate. He criticizes the tendency to compare Love to Aaron Rodgers and demand he 'take over' the offense, arguing that such changes would disrupt a successful, cohesive system. Ultimately, Schlipp contends that the real issues—like injuries and postseason underperformance—are separate from the quarterback’s development and should not be conflated with a non-existent problem of being 'held back'.
Jordan Love is already a top-five quarterback in the NFL, with elite third-down performance metrics.
The Packers' offense is Matt LaFleur's system, not Jordan Love's, and it functions best when the quarterback executes it.
The 'training wheels' narrative is unsupported by data—Love has full freedom on the field and checks plays as needed.
Comparing Love to Aaron Rodgers and demanding he 'take over' the offense undermines the success of the current system.
The real issues facing the Packers—like injuries and postseason struggles—are separate from the quarterback's development.
The Problem with 'Feeling' Over Facts
“I don't know what you're talking about. I'm the only idiot in the world that doesn't see it. So show me if it's so obvious. Prove it to me because I don't see it.”
The Myth of the 'Training Wheels' Offense
Schlipp dismantles the idea that Jordan Love lacks freedom in the offense, arguing that he has full pre-snap and post-snap autonomy. He uses NFL data to show the Packers run the ball at league-average rates on first down.
Why the System Works: LaFleur's Offense is a Team Effort
Schlipp explains that the offense is a collaborative system built over years, not just a quarterback's personal playbook. He compares it to a spiritual union between coach and quarterback, emphasizing that the coach handles the mental side while the QB handles the physical.
Jordan Love’s Elite Third-Down Performance
“He's number one in the NFL, by the way, on third down EPA per play. He's still one, two, three, four, fifth on completion percentage over expected, which is phenomenal.”
The Fallacy of Comparing Love to Rodgers
Schlipp argues that demanding Jordan Love become like Aaron Rodgers is not only unrealistic but counterproductive. He warns that such changes would destroy the cohesion of Matt LaFleur’s offense.
“He's number one in the NFL, by the way, on third down EPA per play. He's still one, two, three, four, fifth on completion percentage over expected, which is phenomenal.”
“Don't give a crap how you feel. Who cares how you feel? Why are you letting your feelings dictate what you think is happening?”
“I don't know what you're talking about. I'm the only idiot in the world that doesn't see it. So show me if it's so obvious. Prove it to me because I don't see it.”
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Aaron Rodgers
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Joe Thomas
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Christian Watson
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