Interview with Clint Hurdle
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Clint Hurdle, a 42-year baseball lifer who played in the majors from 1977 to 1988 and managed the Rockies and Pirates for 17 seasons, shares raw, unfiltered wisdom from a career spanning generations of baseball evolution. He reveals that his most defining moment wasn’t a home run or a World Series win—but walking into Royals Stadium as a 20-year-old, seeing his name on a locker, and realizing he was truly part of the big leagues. Hurdle’s book, *Hurdle-isms*, wasn’t born from a plan but from a painful rejection and a friend’s blunt truth: he was afraid. That fear led to a three-month interview process with a publisher, red-lined drafts, and a final product that transcends baseball—offering life lessons on accountability, mental reset, and resilience. His signature mantra, 'Shower well,' urges people to wash off failure, anxiety, and regret before returning to family and the next day’s opportunity. Hurdle also delivers a contrarian take on modern baseball: while he respects the game’s need to evolve, he calls the 'ghost runner' rule a betrayal of baseball’s soul, and praises the global rise of players like Shohei Otani—someone he never thought he’d see in his lifetime, a two-way player who defies decades of sports specialization. His Rushmore of the greatest players he’s seen? George Brett, Johnny Bench, Tom Seaver, and Todd Helton—each a master of their craft, with Helton’s Hall of Fame delay a painful injustice he still defends.
Shower well: Wash off failure, anxiety, and regret after every game or setback to be fully present for your next opportunity.
The ghost runner rule in extra innings undermines the integrity of the game—baseball’s drama should come from competition, not convenience.
Todd Helton’s Hall of Fame delay was unjust—his road stats prove he was elite beyond Coors Field’s altitude advantage.
You’re never as good as you think you are, and you’re never as bad as you think you are—this balance is essential for growth.
The best pitchers aren’t always the most famous—Clint Hurdle was dominated by Shane Raleigh, a forgotten name with a 40-at-bat, 1-hit record against him.
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Welcome to the Pod of Fame: A Baseball Lifelong Journey
Jim Milak introduces the episode with excitement for baseball season, setting the stage for his conversation with Clint Hurdle—a man who has lived baseball for nearly 50 years as a player, manager, and now author. The episode begins with Hurdle’s storied career, from being a high draft pick in 1977 to managing the Rockies and Pirates.
The Real Welcome to the MLB: Seeing Your Name on a Locker
“My really wake up moment getting to the big leagues... I was told after our last game in AAA... you're going to the major leagues. You're being called up for September. Now that's not the moment, but that you want to talk about going home and having an easy time packing. I threw everything I had in like two suitcases... walked through those doors in Royal Stadium... seeing my jersey and my name on top of the locker... that would have been my moment.”
The Weight of the World Series: More Than Just an At-Bat
Hurdle reflects on the psychological weight of playing in the World Series at age 22. Unlike regular-season games, October at-bats were watched by everyone—family, friends, fans. The stakes were higher, the pressure immense, and the experience felt like a life-defining moment.
George Brett: The Ultimate Model of Discipline and Passion
Hurdle shares what made George Brett so special—his relentless work ethic, self-discipline, and passion. He highlights Brett’s ability to separate offense from defense, his intensity, and his respect for the game, calling him a true honor to play with.
The Pitcher Who Owned Clint Hurdle: Shane Raleigh
“If you Google him up and you look at his playing experience, this guy pitched a long time in the big leagues was very good, but he absolutely owned Clint Hurdle. He owned me.”
“opportunity, but wash it all off before you leave here. So shower well was the term that actually resonated through the clubhouse.”
“The ghost runner... I don't know why. I hate it so much. Why do we play a game for nine innings and it matters all that way? And now all of a sudden it's like the game doesn't matter as much.”
“Complaining without having an answer is whining.”
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Clint Hurdle
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George Brett
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Todd Helton
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Shane Raleigh
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Shohei Otani
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John Gordon
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Matt Holliday
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Wiley
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