The Deep Order of Nine Angles Black Metal Lore | PREVIEW
The episode dives into the hidden ideological undercurrents linking the Order of Nine Angles (O9A)—a controversial, largely fictionalized network of Nazi Satanists—to the 1990s black metal scene. While O9A is often dismissed as a solitary creation of British author David Myatt, the hosts reveal it was far more influential than previously thought, with real-world groups adopting its ideology, especially in the US. Central to this is the emergence of a vampiric, Nietzschean-inspired cult narrative in the 90s, pioneered by figures like Joshua Sutter of the Temple of Blood, who claimed descent from a mythical 'Noctulian' lineage. The episode exposes how black metal’s edgy aesthetics became a vehicle for radicalizing young, disillusioned fans into a twisted self-improvement cult that glorifies sociopathy, violence, and the eradication of empathy as signs of evolutionary superiority. This isn’t just about shock value—it’s a deliberate, structured ideology that weaponizes occultism and nihilism under the guise of transcendence.
The Order of Nine Angles was not a real organization but a mythologized ideology that inspired real-world extremist groups in the 1990s.
O9A’s core belief is that sociopathy and ruthlessness are signs of evolutionary superiority, not moral failure.
The 'Noctulian' vampiric lineage claimed by Joshua Sutter’s Temple of Blood was likely invented in the 1990s, not rooted in ancient history.
Many O9A-affiliated figures emerged from the black metal scene, especially fans of Varg Vikernes of Burzum, who were drawn to O9A’s nihilistic, anti-human worldview.
The ideology frames violence, taboo-breaking, and lack of remorse as spiritual advancement—turning moral degradation into a sacred practice.
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Introducing the Order of Nine Angles
“It wasn't a real organization, but there was actually... other groups affiliated with it that adopted its ideology almost completely.”
The Myth of the 'Order of No Members'
The episode explores how O9A was largely a product of Myatt’s imagination, yet still inspired real-world groups and individuals who adopted its ideology, particularly in the 1990s.
The Black Metal Connection
“A lot of these people actually come from the black metal scene. And a lot of them were, like Joshua Sutter included, were big fans of Varg Vikurnes of Burzum from Norway in the 90s.”
O9A’s Core Ideology: The 'Ruthless Uberschmensch'
“Being a sociopath is what makes you an ubermensch in their kind of worldview.”
“So it's basically, being a sociopath is what makes you an ubermensch in their kind of worldview.”
“It wasn't a real organization, but there was actually... other groups affiliated with it that adopted its ideology almost completely, and also more people than just the two of them.”
“It seems to me that it was invented in the US in the 90s.”
Host
Guest
David Myatt
person
Joshua Sutter
person
Varg Vikernes
person
Temple of the Vampire
organization
Church of Satan
organization
Michael W. Ford
person
RJ Morau
person
Victor Mihail
person
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