Why are there so many Marys in the Bible?
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In this episode of Q with Tom Power, playwright Erin Shields discusses her new play, *Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary*, which centers on four women in the Bible named Mary—Mary, the mother of Jesus, Mary Magdalene, Mary the mother of James and John, and Mary of Bethany. Shields explores the historical and cultural significance of these women, questioning why so many are named Mary and how their individual stories have been overshadowed by collective narratives. She reflects on the marginalization of women in religious texts, the mythologizing of Mary Magdalene as a prostitute (a misrepresentation stemming from a 6th-century sermon), and the emotional weight of motherhood in the crucifixion narrative. The play also delves into themes of identity, agency, and the untold lives of women in foundational stories, drawing parallels to her other works like *Medusa* and *Paradise Lost*. Shields emphasizes the importance of reimagining forgotten voices, especially women and non-binary figures, to challenge dominant narratives and invite empathy across gender lines.
There are multiple women named Mary in the Bible, and their individual stories have often been erased or conflated.
Mary Magdalene was wrongly labeled a prostitute due to a 591 sermon by Pope Gregory, not from biblical text.
Women in early Christianity played crucial, often unseen roles—like preparing the Last Supper—despite being excluded from formal recognition.
Reimagining historical figures like Mary and Medusa allows audiences to confront emotional depth, trauma, and agency in marginalized voices.
Shields' work invites both religious and secular audiences to engage with sacred stories through a contemporary, human-centered lens.
Introduction to the Episode and Guest
Tom Power introduces the episode and welcomes playwright Erin Shields, highlighting her recent surge of new plays and her latest work, *Mary, Mary, Mary, Mary*, which explores the lives of four women named Mary in the Bible.
The Mystery of Multiple Marys
“I was like, why don't I read the Bible? Because, you know, everything had been canceled with lots of time. And just Mary kept coming up.”
The Four Marys and Their Roles
“I really thought about who is this collective of Marys? And as they move toward the end of this story, to the crucifixion and the resurrection, what becomes of them then when they no longer have to be a group?”
Reclaiming Mary Magdalene and Challenging Myths
“In 591, Pope Gregory made a sermon where he conflated the sinful woman... with Mary Magdalene. And he thought the sinful woman was definitely a prostitute, and therefore Mary Magdalene was also a prostitute.”
Humanizing the Mother of Jesus and the Power of Storytelling
“I can't imagine anything worse than one of them dying. More of my conversation with Aaron Shields coming up in just a moment.”
“In 591, Pope Gregory made a sermon where he conflated the sinful woman... with Mary Magdalene. And he thought the sinful woman was definitely a prostitute, and therefore Mary Magdalene was also a prostitute.”
“I can't imagine anything worse than one of them dying.”
“I really thought about who is this collective of Marys? And as they move toward the end of this story, to the crucifixion and the resurrection, what becomes of them then when they no longer have to be a group?”
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Erin Shields
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Mary Magdalene
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Mary, mother of Jesus
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Tom Power
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Medusa
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Paradise Lost
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Soulpepper Theatre
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Pope Gregory
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Caitlin
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Athena
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