Political Gabfest - "Subject to the Jurisdiction Thereof"
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The Slate Political Gabfest episode 'Subject to the Jurisdiction Thereof' examines the Supreme Court's recent hearing on President Trump's executive order to end birthright citizenship for children born to undocumented immigrants in the U.S. The hosts—David Plotz, Emily Gosling, and John Dickerson—analyze the legal, historical, and political dimensions of the case, emphasizing that the 14th Amendment’s phrase 'subject to the jurisdiction thereof' has long been interpreted to grant birthright citizenship broadly, with only narrow exceptions like diplomats and invading forces. They critique the Trump administration’s argument, which relies on a narrow reading of 'domicile' and 'allegiance,' as legally and historically unsound. The discussion highlights how Justice Alito’s originalist stance and the president’s theatrical Supreme Court appearance reflect a broader effort to expand the Overton window around controversial policies. The episode also dissects Trump’s ongoing war in Iran, questioning its strategic coherence, economic costs, and impact on global stability, while noting the administration’s failure to deliver on promised outcomes. In parallel, the hosts analyze two contrasting Senate primaries—Maine’s Democratic race between incumbent Janet Mills and progressive oyster farmer Graham Plattner, and Texas’s Republican runoff between Senator John Cornyn and corrupt MAGA favorite Ken Paxton—highlighting the tension between strategic electability and grassroots energy. Finally, the episode covers Trump’s latest executive order targeting mail-in voting, which critics see as a dangerous federal overreach undermining state election authority, and closes with reflective cocktail chatter on themes of memory, loss, and the moral weight of inherited possessions, drawing on Ursula K. Le Guin’s 'The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas'.
The Supreme Court is likely to reject Trump’s executive order ending birthright citizenship, citing the plain meaning of the 14th Amendment and decades of consistent legal precedent.
Trump’s strategy of pushing controversial issues to the Supreme Court may expand the Overton window, even if he loses, by normalizing fringe ideas and gaining political attention.
The Iran war lacks clear strategic goals, is economically damaging, and risks undermining U.S. alliances, yet Trump continues to frame it as a victory despite limited military and diplomatic progress.
In Senate primaries, Democratic voters in Maine face a choice between a safe, experienced candidate (Mills) and an energizing but controversial outsider (Plattner), reflecting a broader party tension between strategy and authenticity.
Trump’s refusal to endorse Cornyn in Texas’s GOP runoff suggests a shift toward empowering more extreme MAGA-aligned candidates, even if they are less electable, to energize the base.
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Birthright Citizenship and the Supreme Court
“If you're going to challenge our whole kind of foundational narrative, she kept using the word story. She was being really good about using just plain words. If you're going to challenge that whole story, what level of evidence do you think you should have to be able to overturn and toss the whole thing?”
The Iran War: Strategy, Cost, and Performance
“It's a very tough box to get out of because people, according to polling consistently don't think that this was good idea and they've got other concerns. This was not their major concern.”
Senate Primaries: Maine and Texas as Political Mirrors
“It's why these races are so fascinating. And I was, at first, I wasn't sure, David, why you were like, no, we should talk about these two. And you would think that I would immediately get what you were talking about, but it took me a minute.”
Trump’s Executive Order on Mail-in Voting
The hosts condemn the latest executive order that seeks to centralize voter eligibility through a federal citizenship registry, warning it undermines state election authority and creates a dangerous precedent for federal overreach in democratic processes.
Cocktail Chatter: Memory, Loss, and Moral Choice
The episode closes with reflective discussions on cleaning out a family home, the emotional weight of inherited possessions, and the moral dilemma posed by Ursula K. Le Guin’s 'The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas', drawing parallels to national choices about suffering and justice.
“The idea of statelessness, the idea that you belong nowhere, that you are a citizen of nowhere. It's just an awful thought. It's an awful thought.”
“If you're going to challenge our whole kind of foundational narrative, she kept using the word story. She was being really good about using just plain words. If you're going to challenge that whole story, what level of evidence do you think you should have to be able to overturn and toss the whole thing?”
“You can't convince people that their wallets are better off than they are. You also can't convince people that you're winning a war that they don't think you're winning.”
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Emily Gosling
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John Dickerson
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David Plotz
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Graham Plattner
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