How to Build an Agency That Doesn't Depend on You with Ted Harrison | Ep #897

Smart Agency Masterclass with Jason Swenk: Podcast for Digital Marketing Agencies33mApril 15, 2026

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In this episode of the Smart Agency Masterclass, Jason Swenk interviews Ted Harrison, founder of New Motion, a digital marketing agency launched in October 2023 after Ted's tenure at Twitter and X. Ted shares his origin story, detailing how the turmoil at X under Elon Musk’s leadership motivated him to seek autonomy and control over his decisions. He leveraged his extensive network from his time at Twitter to quickly secure high-profile clients like Salesforce, even before formally launching his company. A key theme throughout the conversation is the importance of building systems and documentation—especially through his book *Entrepreneurial Creativity* and a custom course—to scale without relying on his personal involvement. Ted emphasizes that while AI is a powerful tool for forecasting, content cleanup, and internal knowledge management, it cannot yet replicate human taste, emotional intelligence, or brand integrity, especially in enterprise-level creative work. He also discusses how AI is reshaping roles rather than replacing them, urging agency owners to focus on reskilling and evolution. The episode concludes with Ted’s candid take on the absurd payment terms of big corporations and his decision to pivot to smaller, better-paying clients—highlighting the often overlooked business realities of agency work.

Key Takeaways
1

Document your knowledge early and thoroughly—Ted’s book and internal course have been critical to scaling without relying on him.

2

AI is a force multiplier, not a replacement; use it for efficiency, but never outsource human judgment, taste, or brand integrity.

3

Big clients often have terrible payment terms—don’t be afraid to walk away and focus on better clients with better terms.

4

The most valuable asset in an agency isn’t your skill—it’s your system, process, and institutional knowledge.

5

Reskill your team when technology changes—like IKEA did with customer service reps transitioning to interior design consultants.

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Chapters
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10 min

From Twitter to Agency Founder: Ted’s Origin Story

I wanted to be responsible for my own decisions. And I think that was a big impetus for me wanting to start the agency.

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10:00
10 min

Scaling Without Being the Hero: The Power of Documentation

Having those things documented and like out there has made a huge impact on how I can like scale.

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20:00
10 min

AI in the Agency: Tool, Not Replacement

The biggest thing I keep saying I really hound on with our team is to make sure that we're not starting there, that you're poking and prodding at what's happening and not getting too caught up in what you think it's telling you is the right thing.

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30:00
10 min

The Real Business Model of Agencies: Payment Terms & Power Dynamics

You want 180 day net payment? I was like, go fuck yourself. I'm going to go work for the billion dollar companies no one's ever heard of.

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15 min

The Evolution of Work: From Human to AI-Augmented Teams

Ted draws parallels between the evolution of social media and the current AI era, suggesting we’re in the 'teenage years' of AI—full of experimentation, absurdity, and early mistakes. He encourages agency owners to focus on reskilling and repositioning teams, not fear replacement. The future belongs to those who evolve.

High-Impact Quotes
You want 180 day net payment? I was like, go fuck yourself. I'm going to go work for the billion dollar companies no one's ever heard of.
Ted Harrison31:50
Viral: 92.0
The most valuable asset in an agency isn’t your skill—it’s your system, process, and institutional knowledge.
Ted Harrison19:10
Viral: 88.0
I wanted to be responsible for my own decisions. And I think that was a big impetus for me wanting to start the agency.
Ted Harrison2:38
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Host

Jason Swenk

Guest

Ted Harrison
Topics Discussed
agency scaling without founder dependency95%documentation and knowledge transfer90%ai in creative agencies88%payment terms and client dynamics85%reskilling and workforce evolution80%entrepreneurial creativity75%agency founder mindset70%client acquisition and network leverage65%
People & Brands

Ted Harrison

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45xPositive

AI

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30xPositive

New Motion

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22xPositive

Twitter

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18xNeutral

X

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15xNegative

Elon Musk

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10xNegative

Entrepreneurial Creativity

book

6xPositive

E2M Solutions

organization

5xPositive

Claude

other

5xPositive

Robin

person

4xPositive

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