1994: What Does Childcare Actually Cost?
The episode dismantles the myth that childcare is an unaffordable burden by reframing it as a strategic investment in a family’s future—equivalent to student loans or career advancement. Economist Corinne Lowe and financial expert Farnoosh Torabi expose how the real cost of childcare isn’t just monetary but emotional and systemic: rising standards in care (like lower child-to-staff ratios and no screens) have driven prices up, while childcare deserts and the decline of intergenerational households have limited options. The hosts challenge the harmful narrative that childcare costs should be borne solely by mothers, arguing instead that it’s a shared family expense that enables both parents to maintain careers and build long-term wealth. Farnoosh walks through a full spectrum of options—from daycare centers and nanny shares to au pairs and in-home caregivers—highlighting hidden costs like payroll taxes, PTO, and backup plans. Crucially, she urges families to treat the childcare years as a temporary financial squeeze, not a permanent lifestyle shift, and to use tools like FSAs, strategic debt, and flexible work arrangements to navigate it. The episode ends with a powerful call to action: don’t let fear of short-term costs derail long-term financial and personal goals.
Reframe childcare not as a cost but as an investment in your career, time, and future income—just like student loans.
Childcare costs have risen due to higher quality standards (e.g., 4:1 infant-to-caregiver ratios), not just inflation.
Avoid the 'mother’s salary' myth—childcare is a family expense, not a woman’s burden.
Use FSA-dependent care accounts to save up to $5,000 pre-tax annually on childcare costs.
Nanny shares and au pairs can cut costs by 50% while maintaining quality care.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
Introducing Book to Brand: Turn Your Idea Into a Pitch-Ready Book
Farnoosh invites listeners to attend Book to Brand, an immersive event in New York City on October 9th designed to help turn book ideas into compelling, publishable concepts with support from agents, publishers, and authors.
The Myth of the 'Mother’s Salary' and the Real Cost of Childcare
“Don't allow this back of the napkin math that is genderist to force you out of the workforce.”
Childcare as an Investment in Human Capital with Corinne Lowe
“It's not an apples to apples comparison in terms of what you're getting, is that the quality of childcare and the standards for quality childcare have actually increased a lot over time.”
The Full Spectrum of Childcare Options and Hidden Costs
“You're an employer essentially. And this person is working in your home. Yes. And this person is taking care of your most precious person. Most important.”
Strategic Financial Planning During the 'Squeeze' Years
“If you don't save a single cent other than your 401k match when you have kids who are daycare aged, I'm fine with that. I'm not going to scold you about that.”
“And the reason for that is that it's not an apples to apples comparison in terms of what you're getting, is that the quality of childcare and the standards for quality childcare have actually increased a lot over time.”
“As opposed to what it really is, which is you're going to ground zero with your budget. Yes. You are rebuilding the budget with your child at the heart of it.”
“I'm just saying that don't allow this back of the napkin math that is genderist to force you out of the workforce.”
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Guests
Lindsay Stanberry
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Corinne Lowe
person
Farnoosh Torabi
person
Having It All
book
Book to Brand
other
Wharton School
organization
The Purse
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USA Today bestseller
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BabyList
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