It's a TRAP: Trump's Beef with Pope Leo Cannot Be Won | Guest: Rep. Chip Roy | 4/13/26

In this episode of The Steve Deace Show, host Steve Deace analyzes President Donald Trump's escalating public conflict with Pope Leo XIV, framing it as a strategic trap rather than a tactical misstep. While Trump's military posture in the Strait of Hormuz is praised as a necessary and astute move to maintain pressure on Iran, Deace argues that attacking the papacy—symbol of a 2,000-year-old institution—undermines Trump's base, particularly Catholic voters who have consistently supported him. The episode explores the symbolic power of the papacy, contrasting it with the president’s political authority, and warns that engaging with a spiritual symbol on political terms is a losing battle. Deace also features Texas Congressman Chip Roy, who discusses the legislative gridlock in Congress, the need for aggressive border reform, and the importance of holding the Senate accountable. The show concludes with an 'Ask Me Anything' segment where Deace addresses theological questions, defends his nuanced political stance, and emphasizes the importance of a biblical worldview in public life.