Episode 407: Just Say “Uh-Oh”
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In Episode 407 of Stick to Wrestling, John McAdam and guests Steve Gennarelli and Jamie Ward deliver a deep, nostalgic, and critically reflective review of WrestleMania II, held on April 7, 1986. The episode opens with a behind-the-scenes anecdote about a missing audio file, leading to a unique format where the hosts analyze pre-recorded promos and match footage from the event. They dissect the show’s uneven quality—highlighting the lack of buildup for many matches, the overuse of celebrities, and the forced nature of several storylines—while also acknowledging moments of genuine entertainment and historical significance. The discussion covers key matches like Hulk Hogan vs. King Kong Bundy in the Big Blue Cage, the controversial Mr. T vs. Roddy Piper boxing match, and the British Bulldogs’ title win over the Dream Team, which marked the end of Dynamite Kid’s career. The hosts also explore the broader context of the WWF’s evolving storytelling, the decline of certain stars like Hercules and Uncle Elmer, and the early signs of Andre the Giant’s heel turn. Throughout, they balance nostalgia with sharp critique, ultimately concluding that while WrestleMania II was a disappointment compared to its predecessor, it served as a crucial learning experience for Vince McMahon, paving the way for the monumental success of WrestleMania III. The episode also features extensive analysis of concurrent WWF programming, including Championship Wrestling and All-Star Wrestling tapings, spotlighting developments like the arrival of the Rougeau Brothers, the rise of Jake the Snake Roberts, and the growing prominence of Paul Roma. The hosts reflect on the business side of wrestling—managerial legacies (Bobby Heenan vs. Paul Heyman), the impact of celebrity casting, and the logistical challenges of touring. They emphasize that while the show lacks the magic of later WrestleManias, its flaws make it a fascinating case study in the maturation of professional wrestling as a major entertainment spectacle. The episode closes with a sense of respect for the era’s ambition, even as the hosts acknowledge its shortcomings.
WrestleMania II’s lack of buildup and narrative cohesion made it feel like a disjointed spectacle, despite its ambitious three-city format.
The Hogan vs. Bundy cage match was a pivotal moment that, while underwhelming in execution, helped solidify Hogan’s mythos and set the stage for future storytelling.
The Mr. T vs. Piper boxing match, though fixed, was more entertaining than remembered due to the charisma and preparation of both competitors.
The British Bulldogs’ victory over the Dream Team was a landmark moment, but the match’s legacy is marred by the serious injury to Dynamite Kid.
The episode underscores how WrestleMania II’s failures directly informed the massive success of WrestleMania III, proving that even stinkers can be valuable learning tools.
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The Missing Audio & Episode Setup
John McAdam opens the episode with a humorous and candid admission about losing the audio file for the show, forcing a unique format where the hosts review pre-recorded WrestleMania II promos and footage. He introduces the guests and sets the stage for a deep dive into the 1986 event.
WrestleMania II Promos: The Voice of the Past
“I'm going to teach you how to talk. I'm going to teach you how to say macho man, you're the best.”
The Main Event: Hogan vs. Bundy in the Big Blue Cage
“If they knew they were doing a WrestleMania 2, because I'm not convinced that they knew they were going to do it until they got up around September or October of 85.”
The Mr. T vs. Piper Boxing Match: A Fixed but Entertaining Show
“I gave it like a negative three stars. I mean, he wasn't really that good, but they had to be on the show.”
The British Bulldogs vs. Dream Team: A Match That Changed Wrestling
“It was the best technical match on the entire show, I would probably give it four stars.”
“I'm going to teach you how to talk. I'm going to teach you how to say macho man, you're the best.”
“You've got to remember, just as long as you chased us around the country for a year, now you've got to remember that the Hammer and the Beefer and Luscious Johnny are going to be breathing down your neck.”
“If they knew they were doing a WrestleMania 2, because I'm not convinced that they knew they were going to do it until they got up around September or October of 85.”
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Hulk Hogan
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Roddy Piper
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King Kong Bundy
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Vince McMahon
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Mr. T
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Jamie Ward
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Jake the Snake Roberts
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Macho Man Randy Savage
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John McAdam
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Andre the Giant
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