Shadowbanned (w/ Marc Hochman)
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In this episode of Stugotz and Company, hosts Stugots and CJ Toledano welcome guest Marc Hochman for a deep dive into baseball fandom, prank calls, and the absurdity of sports culture. The conversation kicks off with a hilarious replay of a classic Mike Francesa prank call where a caller seriously asks if a team could ever go 162-0 in baseball, only to be met with deadpan disbelief. Hochman shares his personal baseball obsessions, including his emotional attachment to players like Matt Mervis and Davison De Los Santos, both of whom he followed closely—only to see them get 'shadow banned' by the Marlins organization after brief MLB stints. The episode is filled with nostalgic stories from Hochman’s radio days, including a legendary softball game against Michael Bolton, where the pop star arrived in full MLB-style uniform, and a vivid memory of playing intramural sports with intense competitive fervor. The hosts also explore the quirks of college sports fandom, debating whether it’s valid to root for different teams in basketball and football, and reflect on the emotional weight of sports loyalty. Amid the humor, there’s a poignant undercurrent about the fleeting nature of fandom and the joy found in the absurd.
Fandom is deeply personal—rooting for obscure players like Matt Mervis or Davison De Los Santos can create intense emotional investment.
The concept of 'shadow banning' in sports is a humorous but real phenomenon where teams quietly demote players after brief success, often frustrating fans.
Prank calls like the one on Mike Francesa are brilliant because they rely on the host’s seriousness to sell the joke.
Intramural sports can feel like high-stakes competition, even when the stakes are low.
Nostalgia and personal stories (like playing softball against Michael Bolton) are central to the joy of sports fandom.
Intro & Sponsor Segments
The episode opens with a series of podcast promos for Humor Me, Sports Slice, Point Game, Just Healed, and Inside American Soccer, followed by the official intro of Stugotz and Company with Marc Hochman.
The 162-0 Baseball Dream & Prank Call
“You're not serious, are you? No, like we've seen... Wait a second, have you seen anybody come close to 162-0?”
Hochman's Softball & Radio Memories
“I've got to assemble a softball team. We don't want to be embarrassed by Michael Bolton.”
16-Inch Softball & Chicago Legends
“You wouldn't want to mess with back in Chicago. You see Richie Zisk on the 16-inch softball field. You don't want to mess around.”
Fandom, Shadow Banning & Final Thoughts
“They shadow banned Mervis. Now they shadow banned Davis and De Los Santos. Clayton McCullough has it in for me.”
“They shadow banned Mervis. Now they shadow banned Davis and De Los Santos. Clayton McCullough has it in for me.”
“You're not serious, are you? No, like we've seen... Wait a second, have you seen anybody come close to 162-0?”
“If you're rooting for Carolina and you're rooting for fucking UM, then you're not rooting for anyone. You're just picking teams.”
Hosts
Guest
Marc Hochman
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Marlins
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Mike Francesa
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Michael Bolton
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Richie Zisk
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Chicago
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Matt Mervis
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Davison De Los Santos
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Dave Kingman
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Greg Luzinski
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