Give pests a chance

Talk of Iowa47mApril 4, 2026

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On this Horticulture Day episode of Talk of Iowa, host Charity Nebbe welcomes entomologist Zach Shum from the Plant and Insect Diagnostic Clinic at Iowa State University to challenge common fears about insects and promote a more nuanced understanding of their role in ecosystems. Shum emphasizes that the vast majority of insects are not harmful to humans or gardens, and urges listeners to approach unfamiliar insects with curiosity rather than panic. He discusses the importance of accurate identification—cautioning against relying solely on mobile apps for small insects—and advocates for non-chemical, environmentally friendly pest management strategies like hand removal, water sprays, and pruning. The conversation also touches on the complex reality of non-native species like the Chinese praying mantis, which can be both beneficial and potentially disruptive, and the need for tolerance in gardening. Additional insights are provided by horticulture specialists Aaron and Erin Stile on topics ranging from pollinator-friendly plants and plant care to managing specific pests like budworms and black knot disease. The episode concludes with reassurance that threats like Africanized honeybees and murder hornets are not imminent concerns in Iowa.

Key Takeaways
1

Most insects are not pests—only a tiny fraction are harmful to humans or gardens.

2

Use curiosity over fear when encountering unfamiliar insects; identification is key before taking action.

3

Mobile apps are unreliable for small insects; professional diagnostic clinics offer more accurate identifications.

4

Non-chemical controls like water sprays, hand removal, and pruning are often more effective and sustainable than chemical pesticides.

5

Tolerance is a valid and important strategy in gardening—perfect ecosystems are neither necessary nor realistic.

…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus

Chapters
0:00
10 min

The Myth of the Insect Menace

The overall scenario is that a very small proportion or number of insects are actually harmful or potentially harmful to humans and human systems.

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10:00
10 min

Identifying Insects: Apps vs. Experts

Once they get small, they're just, they're a lot less useful and a lot less reliable.

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20:00
10 min

When to Act: Assessing Pest Threats

You don't necessarily have to take action. It's good to identify what that insect is to the species level if you can and then determine how impactful it could potentially be.

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30:00
10 min

Gardening for Insects: Pollinator-Friendly Practices

Specialists discuss how to create gardens that support beneficial insects. They recommend native flowering plants, emphasize the importance of nectar sources, and highlight the ecological value of tiny parasitoid wasps and other overlooked species.

40:00
10 min

The Complex Case of the Chinese Praying Mantis

They're both good and they're bad. And I think it's up to homeowners to really decide what is most meaningful to them.

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High-Impact Quotes
The more experience you get and the more time you spend out there and the more you force yourself to get closer to them, I promise it works.
Zach Shum42:00
Viral: 88.0
The overall scenario is that a very small proportion or number of insects are actually harmful or potentially harmful to humans and human systems.
Zach Shum1:10
Viral: 85.0
They're both good and they're bad. And I think it's up to homeowners to really decide what is most meaningful to them.
Zach Shum21:30
Viral: 80.0
Speakers

Host

Charity Nebbe

Guests

Zach ShumAaron StileErin Stile
Topics Discussed
insect identification90%organic pest management88%beneficial insects85%garden ecosystem balance82%non-native species80%pollinator gardening78%overcoming insect fear75%plant disease management70%
People & Brands

Zach Shum

person

15xPositive

Iowa State University

organization

12xPositive

Talk of Iowa

media

10xPositive

Plant and Insect Diagnostic Clinic

organization

8xPositive

Chinese praying mantis

other

6xMixed

parasitoid wasps

other

5xPositive

Dwell Home Furnishings

brand

4xNeutral

Northern Giant Hornet

other

3xNeutral

black knot

other

3xNeutral

Africanized honeybee

other

3xNeutral

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