606 - Consumer Engagement Done Right: Designing Digital Health Experiences With Consumers
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In this episode of Talking Health Tech, host Peter Birch welcomes Shelley Thompson, co-founder of Patient Experience Agency, to discuss the critical yet often misunderstood concept of consumer engagement in digital health. Shelley emphasizes that true consumer engagement goes beyond one-way feedback collection—it's a continuous, collaborative partnership with patients, caregivers, and communities throughout the entire service design lifecycle. She highlights how healthcare organizations frequently design solutions around internal workflows rather than the lived experiences of patients, leading to innovations that solve the wrong problems. Using the 'listen, define, co-create' framework and tools like patient journey mapping, Shelley illustrates how organizations can uncover systemic gaps—such as fragmented care pathways for dementia patients—that aren't visible within individual departments. The conversation also addresses practical barriers to engagement, including time constraints, fear of criticism, and the need for safe, honest feedback environments. Shelley shares real-world examples where cross-service collaboration led to meaningful improvements, and promotes her podcast 'Consumer Health Partnerships' as a platform showcasing authentic, human-centered partnerships in health innovation. The episode concludes with actionable steps for organizations to build sustainable consumer engagement capabilities. Key takeaways include: 1) Consumer engagement must be a core organizational capability, not a one-off activity; 2) Use human-centered design methods like journey mapping to uncover problems that exist between services; 3) Engage the right people with relevant lived experience, not just any patient; 4) Create safe spaces for honest feedback by acknowledging power dynamics and time pressures; 5) Combine advisory groups, co-design workshops, and embedded digital feedback loops for continuous improvement; 6) Validate solutions with evidence, not just founder intuition; 7) Share impact—let participants know how their input influenced outcomes. The overall tone is constructive, hopeful, and deeply practical, with a strong emphasis on empathy, collaboration, and systemic thinking.
True consumer engagement is a continuous partnership, not a one-time feedback session.
Use the 'listen, define, co-create' framework to ground design in lived experience.
Problems often exist between services, not within them—journey mapping reveals these gaps.
Engage relevant lived experience voices, not just any patients.
Create safe environments to elicit honest feedback from patients and clinicians.
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Welcome & Episode Overview
Peter Birch introduces the episode and the Talking Health Tech newsletter, setting the stage for a deep dive into consumer engagement in digital health with guest Shelley Thompson.
Defining Consumer Engagement in Healthcare
“Patients are the experts in their care. We need that voice in things.”
The Gap Between Feedback and True Engagement
“We haven't dug deep enough into what the root cause of the problem actually is.”
Building a Maturity Framework: Listen, Define, Co-create
“One voice is not enough. We need a lot more than that because we're talking about people investing money to change the way they work.”
Real-World Example: Dementia Care Journey Mapping
“The system or the service might work, but the journey itself doesn't.”
“The system or the service might work, but the journey itself doesn't.”
“Patients are the experts in their care. We need that voice in things.”
“The most beautiful thing that comes out of all the conversations we've had so far... is that these people have actually genuinely become friends.”
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