On Your Side?

Talking Real Money - Investing Talk35mApril 14, 2026

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In this episode of Talking Real Money, hosts Don McDonald and Tom Koch dissect the ongoing battle over fiduciary standards in financial advice, particularly focusing on the Department of Labor's failed attempts to enforce a 100% fiduciary rule for retirement plan advisors. They expose how organizations like the Federation of Americans for Consumer Choice—funded by the insurance industry—have repeatedly sued to block these rules, arguing they're 'bad for consumers,' despite serving industry interests. The hosts emphasize that true fiduciary advice is rare, and even 'best interest' and 'suitability' standards are often hollow, allowing conflicts of interest to persist. They warn listeners that rolling retirement funds into IRAs without vetting advisors can expose them to high-fee, low-quality products. The episode concludes with a listener call from Andre, a 52-year-old public employee with strong retirement savings, who receives personalized feedback on his aggressive asset allocation. The hosts advise him to reduce risk, simplify his portfolio, and consider a glide path strategy, while also cautioning against overcomplicated tools like Delaware Statutory Trusts (DSTs) for tax deferral, calling them expensive and illiquid. Despite the challenges, the hosts stress that listeners must take personal responsibility for their financial decisions.

Key Takeaways
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True 100% fiduciary advisors are rare; most 'best interest' or 'suitability' standards allow conflicts of interest.

2

Rolling retirement funds into IRAs without vetting advisors can expose you to high-fee, low-quality investments.

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Even fee-only fiduciaries don’t guarantee better returns, lower fees, or better communication—due diligence is essential.

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Aggressive stock-heavy portfolios may be excessive if you already have guaranteed income from pensions and Social Security.

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Delaware Statutory Trusts (DSTs) are often expensive, illiquid, and not suitable for most investors—pay taxes instead.

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Chapters
0:00
5 min

The Illusion of Consumer Protection

The Federation of Americans for Consumer Choice. Who is funding that organization, Tom? I have no idea, but I'm guessing it has something to do with the industry. It's 100% funded and created by the insurance industry because they think you should have the choice of being lied to by insurance agents.

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5:00
7 min

The Death of the Fiduciary Rule

The hosts explain why the Department of Labor’s fiduciary rule for retirement advice has been repeatedly blocked and effectively killed. They emphasize that once money moves from ERISA plans to IRAs, consumers lose legal protection and are vulnerable to sales-driven advice.

12:00
8 min

The Three Standards of Financial Advice

Fiduciary means very simply as a fiduciary, I work for you period. That's it simply. Best interest, the BI means I can work for me. As long as I tell you some way, even if it's in a disclosure document.

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20:00
10 min

The Risk of Over-Allocating to Stocks

I might tell you just to downsize that risk a little bit and make it more, you know, maybe an 80-20 or something like that to give yourself more cushion.

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30:00
10 min

The Dangers of Delaware Statutory Trusts (DSTs)

I'd run away, run away. Pay your taxes. We talk about that on a fairly regular basis here. Just pay it, move on.

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High-Impact Quotes
The Federation of Americans for Consumer Choice. Who is funding that organization, Tom? I have no idea, but I'm guessing it has something to do with the industry. It's 100% funded and created by the insurance industry because they think you should have the choice of being lied to by insurance agents.
Don McDonald1:49
Viral: 90.0
Fiduciary means very simply as a fiduciary, I work for you period. That's it simply. Best interest, the BI means I can work for me. As long as I tell you some way, even if it's in a disclosure document.
Tom Koch11:35
Viral: 85.0
I'd run away, run away. Pay your taxes. We talk about that on a fairly regular basis here. Just pay it, move on.
Don McDonald26:29
Viral: 80.0
Speakers

Hosts

Don McDonaldTom Koch

Guest

Andre
Topics Discussed
Fiduciary Duty in Financial Advice95%Retirement Plan Rollovers and IRAs90%Conflicts of Interest in Financial Sales88%Delaware Statutory Trusts (DSTs)85%Asset Allocation and Risk Management80%Financial Literacy and Consumer Protection75%Simplifying Retirement Portfolios70%Podcast Production and Audience Engagement65%
People & Brands

Don McDonald

person

80xPositive

Tom Koch

person

75xPositive

Andre

person

12xPositive

Insurance Industry

other

6xNegative

Federation of Americans for Consumer Choice

organization

5xNegative

Department of Labor

other

4xNeutral

AVUV

other

4xPositive

ERISA Plans

other

3xNeutral

Securities and Exchange Commission

other

3xNeutral

Vanguard Total International Stock Market Trust

other

2xPositive

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