FERNANDO MEIRELLES - Director
Fernando Meirelles, director of 'City of God' and 'The Constant Gardener,' reveals that his career in film was not planned but born from childhood exposure to amateur cinema and a pivotal moment in architecture school when he saw a forbidden documentary about Brazil’s Amazon. He describes smuggling the first portable video cameras into Brazil during a military dictatorship, founding a production company that won early video festivals, and using that momentum to transition into commercials—where he learned the grammar of storytelling under pressure. His breakthrough came when he made a tiny test film called 'Golden Gate' to prepare for 'City of God,' using real favela youth as non-actors after a four-month improvisational workshop. The film’s raw, documentary-like style emerged from rejecting traditional continuity and embracing chaos in editing. Meirelles confesses that he once quit filmmaking after the exhausting, soul-crushing promotional tour for 'The Constant Gardener,' only to be pulled back by a serendipitous call about adapting José Saramago’s 'Blindness.' He reflects on the emotional toll of directing, the power of improvisation, and the importance of trusting the process—even when it means shooting entire scenes without a script, letting actors create their own lines in real time.
Fernando Meirelles made his first film as an architecture school thesis by smuggling a Sony video camera into Brazil from Japan during a military dictatorship.
He used a 4-month improvisational workshop with 1,000 favela youth to cast 'City of God,' selecting actors based on their commitment and creativity, not formal training.
Meirelles shot 'City of God' like a documentary—no marks, no continuity, and no script—letting actors improvise lines and movements to achieve authenticity.
He learned that editing is his true creative joy, describing it as a 'video game' where he can experiment freely without pressure.
After 'The Constant Gardener' won an Oscar, Meirelles quit filmmaking for a year, burned out from relentless touring and sleep deprivation.
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Welcome to Season 2: Fernando Meirelles
The hosts introduce the episode and guest, Fernando Meirelles, highlighting his acclaimed films including 'City of God,' 'The Constant Gardener,' and 'The Two Popes.'
Childhood Roots in Film and Play
Meirelles recounts growing up around 8mm films shot by his father, who made experimental shorts for fun, and how this early exposure made cinema feel like a game.
The Turning Point: Seeing 'Irasema' in Architecture School
“I remember going down the stairs in this film school and say, that's what I'm going to do in my life.”
Smuggling the First Video Camera into Brazil
“I went to Paraguay in Assumção and took a bus and I came by bus to Sao Paulo to smuggle it at the camera.”
Learning Film by Doing: No School, No Rules
The team assembled the camera in Meirelles' living room, read the manual, and began shooting experimental videos without any formal training.
“I really don't care. I don't care about continuity today. I really don't give. One of Joel Kern's favorite sayings was continuities for sissies.”
“And in our first night shooting City of God, we were ambushed by the drug dealers and we stayed there for eight hours. They wouldn't let us go.”
“But it was so depressed that I told my family when I got back, I said, you know what? I'm never going to make films anymore. This was my last. This is the worst.”
Hosts
Guest
Fernando Meirelles
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City of God
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The Constant Gardener
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Blindness
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César Charloni
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Anthony Hopkins
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Fernando Stutz
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Brad Pitt
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Niamh Fisherman
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José Saramago
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