225. Hues

The Allusionist41mApril 13, 2026

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In this episode of The Allusionist, host Helen Zaltzman explores the complex and often absurd quest to define colors in dictionaries, featuring lexicographer Cori Stamper, author of 'True Color: The Strange and Spectacular Quest to Define Color from Azure to Zinc.' The episode delves into the historical failures of dictionaries to consistently define color terms, from Samuel Johnson’s vague 1755 definition to the wildly inconsistent and often nonsensical entries in Webster’s Third New International Dictionary. Stamper recounts her discovery of bizarre definitions—like 'begonia' being described as 'a deep pink that is bluer, lighter and stronger than average coral'—and traces the roots of this linguistic chaos to 20th-century scientific and industrial demands, particularly post-World War I government investment in color research. The episode examines how color naming became entangled with capitalism, marketing, and government standardization, leading to contradictions like Pompadour being officially classified as green despite universal cultural association with pink. It also critiques the flawed Berlin and Kay theory that equated lack of color words with inability to see color, exposing the cultural bias and linguistic arrogance behind such claims. Ultimately, the episode reveals that color definition is not a scientific fix but a deeply human, emotional, and subjective endeavor—where language shapes perception, but never fully captures it.

Key Takeaways
1

Color definitions in dictionaries have historically been inconsistent, subjective, and often absurd due to the lack of visual aids and reliance on comparative language.

2

The 20th-century push for color standardization was driven by wartime industrial needs, government funding, and the rise of consumer capitalism, not pure science.

3

Marketing exploits emotional connotations of color names (e.g., 'Josephine' vs. 'dusty pink') to influence consumer behavior, even when the actual color hasn't changed.

4

The Berlin and Kay theory, which claimed some cultures couldn’t see certain colors due to lack of words, is deeply flawed and rooted in Eurocentric bias.

5

Color is a psychophysical experience—objects don’t have color, people perceive it, and language shapes that perception, but never perfectly.

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Chapters
0:00
1 min

The Quest for Color

Helen Zaltzman introduces the episode's theme: the long, strange journey to define color in dictionaries, setting the stage with a playful tone and a nod to the show's history.

1:00
2 min

The Failure of Early Dictionaries

A look at how historical dictionaries like Johnson’s 1755 version failed to define colors meaningfully, offering only vague descriptions like 'a color used by painters.'

3:00
2 min

The Madness of Webster's Third

I thought, oh, well, that's kind of weird. But as I would review, I'd keep finding these definitions and they just got stranger and stranger and stranger.

Highlight
5:00
4 min

Color Science and War

The first lethal chemical weapon used on the battlefield, which was chlorine gas, was made by dye stuff manufacturer.

Highlight
9:00
4 min

The Impossible Standard

The Intersociety Color Council’s attempt to create a universal color standard failed because companies refused to share proprietary formulas, highlighting the tension between science and commerce.

High-Impact Quotes
It's horseshit. So you brought up Homer and Greek and the wine dark seas and everyone, oh my God, the ancient Greeks can't see blue. Of course they could see blue.
Cori Stamper34:50
Viral: 90.0
We're not going to do that. We're going to say it's green. Hearing it laid out like that makes it seem all the more sinister.
Cori Stamper30:31
Viral: 88.0
The first lethal chemical weapon used on the battlefield, which was chlorine gas, was made by dye stuff manufacturer.
Cori Stamper10:46
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Host

Helen Zaltzman

Guest

Cori Stamper
Topics Discussed
Color Definition in Dictionaries95%Linguistic Relativity and Perception90%Historical and Scientific Color Research85%Color and Cultural Bias80%Marketing and Emotional Language80%Government Standardization and Control75%Etymology and Semantic Drift70%Lexicography and Objectivity65%
People & Brands

Cori Stamper

person

25xPositive

Webster's Third New International Dictionary

book

15xNeutral

Helen Zaltzman

person

12xPositive

The Allusionist

media

10xPositive

Pompadour

other

7xNeutral

World War I

other

6xNegative

Berlin and Kay

person

5xNegative

World War II

other

5xNegative

Begonia

other

4xNeutral

Intersociety Color Council

organization

4xNeutral

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