The Romans and China

The Ancients58mApril 9, 2026

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Two of history's greatest empires—Imperial Rome and Han China—were connected not by land, but by a vast, forgotten maritime web spanning the Indian Ocean and South China Sea. In this episode, historian Sir Barry Cunliffe reconstructs a theoretical journey of Roman goods from Egypt’s Red Sea ports all the way to Han China, revealing a world of deep-sea trade long before modern globalization. Despite the Romans never officially reaching China, archaeological evidence proves Roman glass, coins, and luxury goods made it as far as Korea and Japan—likely carried by Indian and Malay sailors who dominated the monsoon routes. The real story isn’t one of Roman conquest, but of a globalized ancient world where Indian mariners, Arab traders, and Chinese merchants formed a dynamic, interconnected network. Cunliffe argues that this 'underbelly of Eurasia'—the oceanic trade routes—was just as vital as the Silk Roads, driven not by empires, but by human desire to acquire, explore, and exchange. The episode dismantles the myth of isolated ancient civilizations. From the bustling port of Muziris in Kerala, where a temple to Augustus stood, to Sri Lanka’s role as a crossroads of East and West, and the Malacca Strait’s critical bottleneck, every stop reveals a cosmopolitan hub of cultural fusion. Even the Chinese, who saw themselves as the center of the world, sent envoys to Rome—though their gifts were dismissed as unimpressive.

Key Takeaways
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Roman goods like glass and coins reached Korea and Japan not via Roman ships, but through a network of Indian and Malay traders using monsoon routes.

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The port of Muziris in southern India had a Roman quarter and a temple to Augustus—proof of large-scale Roman presence in the Indian Ocean trade.

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Sri Lanka served as the central hub of ancient maritime trade, linking the Mediterranean to the South China Sea, with ports like Godavaya and Manti showing Roman and Chinese artifacts.

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The Malacca Strait was a critical chokepoint where goods were portaged across the Thai-Malay Peninsula, creating a vital interface between Indian Ocean and South China Sea trade systems.

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Ptolemy’s geography, written in the 2nd century AD, shows that Romans had a detailed mental map of the Indian Ocean, including Sri Lanka, the Malay Peninsula, and China—though they never sailed there.

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2 min

Introduction: The Hidden Maritime World

The episode opens with a teaser for History Hit’s subscription service and introduces Sir Barry Cunliffe, a legendary archaeologist in his 80s, as the guest. The focus is on his new book, Driven by the Monsoons, which explores ancient maritime trade routes connecting Rome and China.

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3 min

Sri Lanka: The Ancient Crossroads

This is like the Begram Horde as well on the main line. Yes, that's right. This is the area. It's like an equivalent, isn't it? The central area where now...

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5 min

The Roman Journey: From Alexandria to the Red Sea

The episode traces a hypothetical Roman trader’s journey from Alexandria through the Nile, across the Eastern Desert to Berenike or Myos Hormus, and then down the Red Sea to Adulis in Aksum.

10:42
7 min

The Gulf of Aden and Arabian Ports

The journey continues through the Red Sea’s chokepoint into the Gulf of Aden, where free ports like Aden and Musa thrived on incense trade and served as meeting points for Indian, Arab, and Roman sailors.

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7 min

Socotra and the Indian Coast

There are foreigners. They might be Romans, they might be Roman traders. You know, they could be Arab traders, but there's a foreigner's quarter there. There's even a temple to Augustus.

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There are foreigners. They might be Romans, they might be Roman traders. You know, they could be Arab traders, but there's a foreigner's quarter there. There's even a temple to Augustus.
Barry Cunliffe37:30
Viral: 88.0
Ganshu, those are the final destination ports. They're the Chinese equivalent to somewhere like Mios Hormos or Berenike, or I guess Alexandria in the West. They're sort of the Alexandrians.
Barry Cunliffe54:05
Viral: 82.0
You would offload your stuff on the west shore, and it would be taken by portage across to ports on the East shore, and then you would load it up on another boat and take it through the South China Sea.
Barry Cunliffe49:12
Viral: 80.0
Speakers

Host

Matt Lewis

Guest

Sir Barry Cunliffe
Topics Discussed
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