BOBBYCAST - Old Crow Medicine Show’s Ketch Secor and Molly Tuttle on Wagon Wheel
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On this episode of The Bobby Bones Show, host Bobby Bones welcomes Old Crow Medicine Show's Ketch Secor and acclaimed bluegrass musician Molly Tuttle, who recently became engaged. The conversation dives into their musical journeys, with Secor recounting his early inspiration from a young John Hartford performance and his formative experience at a Bob Dylan concert that sparked his lifelong passion for music. Molly Tuttle shares her roots in a musical family in the Bay Area, her journey to Berklee College of Music, and the humbling experience of receiving all 'ones' on her initial ratings audition. The duo also reveals the origin story of the iconic song 'Wagon Wheel,' which began as an unfinished Bob Dylan demo that Secor completed, drawing from his own life and the state motto of New Hampshire. They discuss the song's unexpected global success, its deep roots in American folk traditions, and the ongoing legacy of musical inheritance. The episode also explores themes of love, creativity, and the magic of music, with personal stories of meeting heroes like Merle Haggard and Joni Mitchell, and reflections on the role of luck, tradition, and authenticity in art. The conversation is laced with humor, vulnerability, and deep respect for the craft of songwriting and performance.
The story of 'Wagon Wheel' began with an unfinished Bob Dylan demo that Ketch Secor completed, blending Dylan’s melody with his own lyrics and personal experiences.
Molly Tuttle’s journey to Berklee was driven by passion, not a backup plan—she knew music was her only path, even if she had to become a teacher if performing didn’t work.
Receiving all 'ones' on her ratings audition at Berklee was devastating, but she later discovered she wasn’t alone—another musician, Annie Clements, had the same experience.
Secor’s love for music was sparked at age six by a live performance from John Hartford, a moment he describes as feeling like a spaceship landing.
Both artists emphasize the importance of tradition and authenticity in American roots music, seeing it as an inherited art form passed down through generations.
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Introduction and Guest Welcome
Bobby Bones introduces the episode with a brief ad for The Clifford Show, then welcomes Ketch Secor and Molly Tuttle, highlighting their musical talents and recent engagement. He sets a warm, celebratory tone for the conversation.
The Origin of 'Wagon Wheel'
“I finished the song. I wrote it. It was good. It was instantly memorable to me and that last line at the end, at least I will die free if I get to Raleigh. That's the state motto of New Hampshire. Live free or die.”
Musical Upbringing and Early Influences
Secor recounts his early exposure to folk music through John Hartford’s performance at his elementary school, while Molly Tuttle reflects on growing up in a musical household and her early passion for guitar solos and performance.
The Love Story: How They Met and Fell in Love
“The kind of love that I was feeling when I first met you was like, whoa, this is – I don't think this is going away. And it was achy too. Like it wasn't just, I really like this gal. We'd be so great together. It was like a little painful.”
The Berklee Experience and the 'All Ones' Audition
“I got all ones. And it was graded on one to eight. So I just did horrible. Wait, so you get to stay in school if they rate you all ones even after you're already in? Yeah, you just get the most like remedial possible classes after that.”
“The kind of love that I was feeling when I first met you was like, whoa, this is – I don't think this is going away. And it was achy too. Like it wasn't just, I really like this gal. We'd be so great together. It was like a little painful.”
“I feel like our magic is like the art we create. Yeah, that's kind of like... And you are a witch. I feel like that's how I think of it. A guitar witch.”
“I finished the song. I wrote it. It was good. It was instantly memorable to me and that last line at the end, at least I will die free if I get to Raleigh. That's the state motto of New Hampshire. Live free or die.”
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