Mermaids with Johnny Pemberton
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In this lively episode of The Bonfire, Big Jay Oakerson and Robert Kelly welcome comedian and actor Johnny Pemberton to discuss his new film, Mermaid, a wild, darkly comedic movie about a man whose life spirals after he becomes infatuated with a grotesque, non-romanticized mermaid. The conversation dives into the emotional toll of watching a premiere, with Pemberton confessing he can't sit through screenings due to the mental strain of being hyper-aware of every reaction. The hosts share stories of being 'pivoted out' of roles, referencing past casting disappointments involving Dane Cook and Pete Holmes, and reflect on the absurdity of Hollywood casting decisions. They also launch into a hilarious, extended riff on The Rock’s rumored habit of urinating in water bottles on set, complete with anecdotes about the logistics of handling such waste and the absurdity of his 'Iron Paradise' gym. The discussion expands to include actor immersion, with stories of performers becoming their roles—like Austin Butler's Elvis or the cast of Sons of Anarchy—before veering into bizarre true crime documentaries, including one about a white supremacist’s transformation and another about a woman who eats her boyfriend’s ashes. The episode closes with a playful debate on the reality of mermaids, the absurdity of celebrity behavior, and a final plug for Pemberton’s film, now in theaters.
Watching a premiere is mentally exhausting—many actors can't sit through screenings due to self-awareness and overthinking.
The Rock’s rumored habit of urinating in water bottles on set is a real industry joke, highlighting the absurdity of celebrity demands and logistics.
Mermaid is not a romanticized fairy tale; it’s a dark, grotesque creature that challenges traditional mermaid tropes.
Actor immersion is real—performers can become so attached to their roles that they struggle to return to normal life.
Documentaries about extreme personal transformations (like white supremacists or ash-eaters) often feel more compelling than their fictionalized movie adaptations.
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Welcome Back & Introducing Johnny Pemberton
The hosts kick off the episode with their signature energy, welcoming back Big Jay and Robert, and introducing Johnny Pemberton as the guest promoting his new film, Mermaid.
The Torture of Watching a Premiere
“I left after about 20 minutes, I think because it's impossible. I think there's some people who can handle that but anyone, you can't sit there because it's like that thing where unless I'm on like a tunnel where no one can see me and I can't see anybody, can't hear anybody.”
Casting, Pivoting, and Hollywood Absurdity
“I don't get it why. I guess I kind of do because comedians are kind of like sometimes you have to wake up early. You have to be there before noon.”
The Rock’s Piss Bottle Legend & On-Set Culture
“He travels with this gym. It's a tent that goes up with all the gym equipment. They have to fly it in on a plane and then set up the whole gym. And if you have that much money, you could put a bathroom somewhere.”
Actor Immersion & Real-Life Transformation
“I felt Jay's eyebrows go up. What? I just crossed those in my mind. Yeah, how Johnny Depp has kind of become that because he's like an empty vessel and now he's more comfortable.”
“He travels with this gym. It's a tent that goes up with all the gym equipment. They have to fly it in on a plane and then set up the whole gym. And if you have that much money, you could put a bathroom somewhere.”
“I left after about 20 minutes, I think because it's impossible. I think there's some people who can handle that but anyone, you can't sit there because it's like that thing where unless I'm on like a tunnel where no one can see me and I can't see anybody, can't hear anybody.”
“I'm gonna hope he's a black guy who died from diabetes so it's sweet at least. You know what I mean? Take a little bit of that sting off.”
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Robert Kelly
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Big Jay Oakerson
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The Rock
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Johnny Pemberton
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Mermaid
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Parker Posey
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Tyler Kornack
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Kevin Nealon
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Zach Galifianakis
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Butt Boy
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