WHY THIS REP CHOOSE B2B SALES OVER ALL THE OTHER ALTERNATIVES
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The guest, Scott McKenzie, a Princeton graduate and former lacrosse player, reveals why he chose B2B enterprise sales over the traditional elite career path—despite his elite education and family background in sales. His journey began with a professor’s advice: to become an entrepreneur, master sales first. This decision defied expectations, as many Ivy League graduates pursue consulting or investment banking. Scott argues that sales is the ultimate 'new smart' skill—self-driven, performance-based, and built through relentless practice, not classroom theory. He draws parallels between sports and sales, emphasizing that mastery comes from repetition, mental resilience, and real-world feedback. His success stems from embracing the grind, using tools like 'Land and Expand' to reduce risk in enterprise deals, and focusing on organizational problem-solving rather than just closing. Despite the stigma around sales, he highlights its financial upside, leadership development, and potential as a launchpad for founding startups. The episode concludes with a powerful message: sales isn’t about knowledge—it’s about doing, adapting, and learning from the market every day.
Sales is a performance sport, not a knowledge test—success comes from repetition, not textbooks.
The 'new smart' mindset means self-directed learning, discipline, and applying skills daily, not waiting for formal training.
Ivy League grads can thrive in B2B sales by leveraging their strategic thinking and problem-solving skills.
Land and Expand strategy reduces risk for startups by starting small and scaling within enterprise clients.
The most successful reps combine hustle with smart behavior—consistency, personalization, and emotional resilience.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
Old Smart vs. New Smart: The Education Divide
The host introduces the core concept of 'old smart' (structured, school-based learning) versus 'new smart' (self-driven, real-world mastery), using his own story of self-taught software engineering as a case study.
From Princeton to Sales: A Contrarian Path
“If you want to start your own company, go learn sales is the number one thing every entrepreneur can learn.”
Sales as a Performance Sport
“School teaches you what to present. Sports teaches you how.”
The Power of 'Land and Expand' in Enterprise Sales
“I'm not afraid to leave money on the table in these big enterprise deals. The bigger the enterprise, the more risk-averse they are.”
Why Sales Is the Ultimate Career Launchpad
Scott explains how sales at a company like Lattice provides stability, leadership growth, and access to a founder fund—making it a strategic path to entrepreneurship.
“would teach you what to present. Sports teaches you how.”
“If you want to start your own company, go learn sales is the number one thing every entrepreneur can learn.”
“You're not cold calling all day. It's not boiler room. All these movies and pop culture really give sales a bad rap.”
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Scott McKenzie
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Princeton University
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Lattice
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B2B Revenue
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Harvard Business School
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Mark Roberge
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Catalan
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Daniel Kahneman
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Dr. Michael Gazzaniga
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