Andrew Weissmann: Is Trump Going To Raid Fort Knox Next?
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In this incisive episode of The Bulwark Podcast, host Tim Miller welcomes back legal expert Andrew Weissmann to dissect a cascade of political and institutional corruption under the Trump administration. The conversation opens with a scathing critique of Trump’s proposed $1.7 billion settlement with the IRS, which Weissmann argues amounts to legalized theft—where a former president would use taxpayer money to reward political allies, including pardoned January 6th rioters like Andrew Paul Johnson, who was convicted of child sexual abuse. Weissmann underscores the absurdity of the situation, comparing it to a president raiding Fort Knox, and highlights the legal vacuum that allows such schemes to unfold without accountability. The discussion then pivots to the gutting of the Voting Rights Act by the Supreme Court, with Weissmann expressing deep concern over the Court’s refusal to recognize intentional racial discrimination in gerrymandering, particularly in Tennessee and Louisiana. He also critiques the FBI’s leadership under Cash Patel, noting a pattern of personal indulgence and lack of accountability that undermines the agency’s integrity. The episode closes with a deep dive into Weissmann’s new book, Liar’s Kingdom, which calls for criminal and civil sanctions against politicians who lie, arguing that false speech is not protected under free speech doctrine when it constitutes fraud or intentional deception. Weissmann advocates for state-level reforms, including mandatory truth certifications and criminal penalties for material lies, to counter the erosion of truth in American democracy.
Trump’s proposed $1.7 billion IRS settlement is a form of legalized theft, rewarding political allies with taxpayer money and undermining democratic accountability.
The Supreme Court’s recent rulings on the Voting Rights Act have effectively gutted protections against racial gerrymandering, enabling states like Tennessee and Louisiana to redraw districts with intentional racial discrimination.
Cash Patel’s behavior as FBI director—engaging in VIP trips, jet skiing, and personal errands on government aircraft—reflects a culture of impunity and undermines the FBI’s mission.
Weissmann’s new book, Liar’s Kingdom, calls for legal reforms to criminalize material political lies, arguing that false statements that constitute fraud should not be protected under free speech.
The media bubble and information silos mean that truth cannot be trusted to emerge organically; systemic reforms are needed to restore accountability in public discourse.
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The $1.7 Billion IRS Settlement: Theft by Legal Fiction
“Why not just go into Fort Knox, take the gold and give it out? There's no difference, right?”
The Whitewashing of January 6th and the Pardoning of Criminals
“The people who were assaulting are the victims and the people who are trying to stop them are the bad guys. And that's why we're paying this money.”
The Supreme Court’s Gutting of the Voting Rights Act
“It's like a twofer. It's like I get to increase the Republicans' chances and I get to discriminate.”
Cash Patel and the Erosion of FBI Integrity
The hosts critique Cash Patel’s behavior as FBI director, including VIP snorkeling trips, jet skiing, and using government aircraft for personal reasons. Weissmann contrasts this with past directors like Robert Mueller, emphasizing the dangerous precedent of leadership that prioritizes personal indulgence over national security.
The Atlantic vs. Cash Patel: A Legal Battle for Truth
Weissmann advises The Atlantic to reject a safe legal defense and instead demand an immediate trial in its lawsuit against Cash Patel, arguing that exposing Patel’s behavior publicly would be a powerful deterrent against future political abuse of power.
“The people who were assaulting are the victims and the people who are trying to stop them are the bad guys. And that's why we're paying this money.”
“Why not just go into Fort Knox, take the gold and give it out? There's no difference, right?”
“It's like a grower, not a shower.”
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