Courtney Kemp on Netflix series ‘Nemesis’ and diversity in Hollywood

The Business29mMay 22, 2026

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Courtney Kemp, creator of the Netflix crime drama 'Nemesis' and former showrunner of 'Power,' reveals how she navigates Hollywood's shifting landscape by strategically compromising her creative vision to secure funding and production—especially when shooting in LA under her Netflix overall deal. Despite industry pushback against diversity initiatives, Kemp argues that 'green' remains the most important color in Hollywood, pointing to Netflix's diverse executive ranks and recent renewals of Black-centered shows like 'Beyond the Gates' as evidence that representation isn't yet being abandoned. She challenges the myth of a 'whitening' TV industry, noting that shows like 'Yellowstone' still feature meaningful Native American representation. Kemp also reflects on the unique burden of dual consciousness in storytelling, where Black creators must constantly interpret for audiences not like them—while also highlighting that Black men are underrepresented in showrunning roles, though she names several overlooked figures. Her most striking insight? That underestimation of Black women can sometimes be a strategic advantage, allowing more flexibility in the system. The episode also features a sharp critique of the CBS-Elison merger fallout, where Stephen Colbert’s farewell tour on his show became a political lightning rod, and a skeptical take on Disney’s 'The Mandalorian' movie, which critics say feels like a patchwork of TV episodes rather than a true cinematic revival of Star Wars.

Key Takeaways
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Compromise your vision to get the green light—Courtney Kemp says she’ll accept notes she disagrees with to protect jobs and ensure shows get made.

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The color that matters most in Hollywood is green, not race—Kemp argues diversity initiatives are still active at Netflix despite cultural backlash.

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Black women are underestimated, which can be a strategic advantage in navigating a system designed to marginalize them.

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Shows like 'Yellowstone' are not 'whitening' TV—they feature meaningful Native American representation, challenging the narrative of industry regression.

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The 'Supremes on Ed Sullivan Effect' explains why Black audiences will watch any show with authentic Black representation—even if it's flawed.

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Chapters
0:00
3 min

Introducing Courtney Kemp and 'Nemesis'

Kim Masters introduces Courtney Kemp, the creator of 'Nemesis,' Netflix’s first series under her overall deal, and discusses her journey from staff writer to showrunner of 'Power.'

2:50
3 min

The CBS-Elison Merger Fallout

Masters and Matt Bellany debate the political fallout from the CBS-Elison merger, focusing on Stephen Colbert’s farewell tour and how it turned into a cultural moment of resistance.

5:40
3 min

Disney’s 'The Mandalorian' Movie Critique

The hosts critique the new 'Mandalorian' movie, arguing it feels like a collection of TV episodes rather than a cinematic revival of Star Wars.

8:40
5 min

The Evolution of Upfront Week and the Pilot System

Kemp reflects on the decline of traditional Upfront Week and the pilot system, arguing that while pilots are expensive and wasteful, early episode delivery enables better creative and budget conversations.

13:20
5 min

Co-Viewing and the 'Die Hard' Blueprint

Die Hard is a relationship movie with a huge obstacle in the middle.

Highlight
High-Impact Quotes
The color that matters the most in Hollywood is green.
Courtney Kemp18:22
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like, no, that's a relationship movie with a huge obstacle in the middle.
Courtney Kemp16:07
Viral: 85.0
Sometimes I think that underestimation can actually make us less, quote unquote, threatening. And that can sometimes allow us to have more options.
Courtney Kemp27:44
Viral: 82.0
Speakers

Host

Kim Masters

Guest

Courtney Kemp
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