I LOVE TUNA MELTS. Ft. Hayley Kiyoko | Episode 226
Hayley Kiyoko, the iconic pop artist and director, reveals the deeply personal journey behind her decade-long quest to bring 'Girls Like Girls' from a 2015 music video to a full-length film in theaters on June 19th. She shares how the project became a spiritual homecoming, shot in Kelowna, Canada—where her grandparents are buried—and how casting her lead actress, Maya DeCosta, felt like a divine moment. Kiyoko reflects on the power of queer art as both resistance and joy, especially in turbulent political times, and how her own self-acceptance evolved alongside her work. She describes directing as 'coming home,' a culmination of her identity as a storyteller, musician, and queer woman. Her advice to aspiring artists? Stop taking the long way—be yourself from the start. The episode is a love letter to authenticity, representation, and the quiet, persistent power of staying true to your truth, even when the world says no.
Directing 'Girls Like Girls' was a spiritual homecoming, shot in Kelowna, Canada—where Kiyoko’s grandparents are buried—making the journey feel divinely orchestrated.
The film’s lead actress, Maya DeCosta, was cast after Kiyoko saw her sit silently on a bed in her audition tape, instantly recognizing her as the character.
Kiyoko’s advice to queer artists: 'Don’t take the long way'—be yourself from day one, because authenticity is your superpower.
The film’s warm, nostalgic visual tone (set in 2006 but timeless) was intentionally crafted to feel safe, intimate, and emotionally protective for queer viewers.
Kiyoko’s directorial debut includes an album inspired by the film, featuring queer artists, ensuring access for fans who can’t see the movie.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
The Lesbian Awakening: A Sister’s Confession
“I'm glad I'm not going to be there. You're so respectful.”
The 10-Year Journey to 'Girls Like Girls' Film
“I've just been desperately wanting a film like this to exist.”
Queer Joy as a Radical Act
“It's like this is mainstream. Yeah. What are you talking about? We need this.”
Directing as Coming Home
“It was like coming home. I have been fighting so hard to just be able to have an opportunity to do what I thought I would love to do.”
The Spiritual Homecoming of Kelowna
“I literally had, I was like, oh. I got chills. I was like, are you kidding?”
“I literally had, I was like, oh. I got chills. I was like, are you kidding?”
“We're the Sherpas on the mountain. Unfortunately, yes. But we are on the mountain.”
“It was like coming home. I have been fighting so hard to just be able to have an opportunity to do what I thought I would love to do.”
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Hayley Kiyoko
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Drew Afualo
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Girls Like Girls
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Lemonade Mouth
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Maya DeCosta
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Becca
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Kelowna
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Dason
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Sonia
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NSYNC
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