I LOVE TUNA MELTS. Ft. Hayley Kiyoko | Episode 226

The Comment Section with Drew Afualo53mJune 17, 2026
AI-Generated Summary

Hayley Kiyoko, the iconic pop artist and director, reveals the deeply personal journey behind her decade-long quest to bring 'Girls Like Girls' from a 2015 music video to a full-length film in theaters on June 19th. She shares how the project became a spiritual homecoming, shot in Kelowna, Canada—where her grandparents are buried—and how casting her lead actress, Maya DeCosta, felt like a divine moment. Kiyoko reflects on the power of queer art as both resistance and joy, especially in turbulent political times, and how her own self-acceptance evolved alongside her work. She describes directing as 'coming home,' a culmination of her identity as a storyteller, musician, and queer woman. Her advice to aspiring artists? Stop taking the long way—be yourself from the start. The episode is a love letter to authenticity, representation, and the quiet, persistent power of staying true to your truth, even when the world says no.

Key Takeaways
1

Directing 'Girls Like Girls' was a spiritual homecoming, shot in Kelowna, Canada—where Kiyoko’s grandparents are buried—making the journey feel divinely orchestrated.

2

The film’s lead actress, Maya DeCosta, was cast after Kiyoko saw her sit silently on a bed in her audition tape, instantly recognizing her as the character.

3

Kiyoko’s advice to queer artists: 'Don’t take the long way'—be yourself from day one, because authenticity is your superpower.

4

The film’s warm, nostalgic visual tone (set in 2006 but timeless) was intentionally crafted to feel safe, intimate, and emotionally protective for queer viewers.

5

Kiyoko’s directorial debut includes an album inspired by the film, featuring queer artists, ensuring access for fans who can’t see the movie.

…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus

Chapters
0:00
2 min

The Lesbian Awakening: A Sister’s Confession

I'm glad I'm not going to be there. You're so respectful.

Highlight
2:12
2 min

The 10-Year Journey to 'Girls Like Girls' Film

I've just been desperately wanting a film like this to exist.

Highlight
4:00
2 min

Queer Joy as a Radical Act

It's like this is mainstream. Yeah. What are you talking about? We need this.

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6:34
3 min

Directing as Coming Home

It was like coming home. I have been fighting so hard to just be able to have an opportunity to do what I thought I would love to do.

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11:05
2 min

The Spiritual Homecoming of Kelowna

I literally had, I was like, oh. I got chills. I was like, are you kidding?

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High-Impact Quotes
I literally had, I was like, oh. I got chills. I was like, are you kidding?
Hayley Kiyoko11:33
We're the Sherpas on the mountain. Unfortunately, yes. But we are on the mountain.
Hayley Kiyoko50:27
It was like coming home. I have been fighting so hard to just be able to have an opportunity to do what I thought I would love to do.
Hayley Kiyoko6:38
Speakers

Host

Drew Afualo

Guest

Hayley Kiyoko
Topics Discussed
queer representation in film95%directorial debut90%lesbian joy88%self-acceptance journey85%queer art persistence82%non-traditional wedding78%casting authentic leads75%tuna melts70%
People & Brands

Hayley Kiyoko

person

120xPositive

Drew Afualo

person

45xPositive

Girls Like Girls

media

35xPositive

Lemonade Mouth

media

10xNeutral

Maya DeCosta

person

8xPositive

Becca

person

6xPositive

Kelowna

place

5xPositive

Dason

person

5xPositive

Sonia

other

4xNeutral

NSYNC

media

2xNeutral

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