Why Bubble Talk is Totally Wrong with Ankur Crawford
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In this episode of The Compound and Friends, host Josh Brown welcomes Ankur Crawford, Executive Vice President and Portfolio Manager at Alger, to discuss her contrarian views on the current AI and semiconductor boom. Crawford argues that the widespread 'bubble talk' surrounding AI and compute is fundamentally misguided, emphasizing that the current demand for compute is driven by exponential growth in AI capabilities—especially with the rise of agentic AI—rather than speculative frenzy. She highlights the real-world, growing demand for compute, citing examples like Uber blowing its 2026 budget on AI and hyperscalers reinvesting all their cash flow into data centers. Crawford explains that unlike past bubbles such as the dot-com era, today’s investments are in a functioning technological ecosystem with real, immediate use cases and strong fundamentals. She also shares her investment philosophy, which centers on identifying companies undergoing 'lifecycle change'—those reinventing themselves after growth saturation—and her active role in private market investing, including stakes in companies like Anthropic and Palantir. The conversation dives into specific holdings like Nebius, QXO, and AppLovin, underscoring her focus on management quality and long-term structural change. Crawford remains bullish on AI’s transformative potential, even as she acknowledges the volatility and risks, and cautions against linear thinking in an exponential world.
The AI compute shortage is real and driven by exponential demand, not speculation—this is not a bubble.
Companies like NVIDIA, Micron, and Western Digital are experiencing fundamental growth, not just speculative hype.
Investors should focus on 'lifecycle change' companies (e.g., Apple, Microsoft) that are reinventing themselves, not just high-growth startups.
Access to management teams is critical—Crawford values direct engagement with founders and CEOs.
AI agents are already transforming workflows (e.g., college applications), and this is just the beginning.
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Introduction and Background
Josh Brown introduces Ankur Crawford, a seasoned portfolio manager at Alger, highlighting her PhD from Stanford, her career in semiconductor analysis, and her role in managing multiple growth funds. The conversation begins with a light-hearted exchange about her first podcast appearance and her background in material science.
The Growth Philosophy: Change and Lifecycle Shifts
“This isn't value. This is unrecognized growth.”
AI and the Exponential Reality
“I had taken my sons on the ski team and like I had to wake up and I get him ready. And like I stayed up the entire night.”
Private Market Investing and the 'Bubble' Debate
“The market is not in a bubble. It’s in a structural shift.”
The Compute Shortage: Bottlenecks and Tokens
“There's only one corner store. And if you open five corner stores on the same street, all next door to each other, each one of them would have a thousand people waiting online.”
“I had taken my sons on the ski team and like I had to wake up and I get him ready. And like I stayed up the entire night.”
“There's only one corner store. And if you open five corner stores on the same street, all next door to each other, each one of them would have a thousand people waiting online.”
“This isn't value. This is unrecognized growth.”
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Alger
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Ankur Crawford
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NVIDIA
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Amazon
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Josh Brown
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Anthropic
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Apple
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Western Digital
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Micron
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Michael Batnick
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