The Coop Podcast with Special Guest Lisa Steele
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Lisa Steele, author of the newly reimagined 10th anniversary edition of *Gardening with Chickens*, reveals that the updated book is not just a refreshed version—it’s a complete overhaul built from the ground up. After her original book went out of print, she didn’t just reissue it; she rebuilt it with 10 years of cold-weather and hot-weather chicken-keeping experience, new science, and real-world lessons. The result? A book so different that readers wouldn’t recognize it as the same title—despite keeping the name. Steele argues that chickens aren’t pests to be feared but essential partners in the garden, capable of tilling soil, controlling pests, and turning waste into gold through manure and compost. She debunks myths about chicken safety, shares practical timing strategies for integrating chickens into garden cycles, and even reveals how to make 'chicken poop tea'—a liquid fertilizer that’s both effective and eco-friendly. Her most radical idea? You don’t need to free-range your chickens to get the benefits—just use their manure, feed them garden scraps, and let them eat what you’d otherwise throw away. The real magic, she says, is in closing the loop: no waste, no guilt, just a thriving backyard ecosystem. Steele also delivers a candid, humorous look at the wild side of chicken life—mice frozen in ice buckets, cardinals killed in coop skirmishes, and geese that drown prey on purpose.
The 10th anniversary edition of Gardening with Chickens is a completely rebuilt book—not just updated, but reimagined from the ground up with new climate experience and practical insights.
Chickens are not destructive pests—they’re natural garden allies when used strategically with timing: they prep soil in spring, eat pests during growing season, and clean up after harvest.
Use chicken manure safely by composting it for 2+ months or applying it in fall to let it age before planting in spring.
Make 'chicken poop tea' by soaking coop bedding in water to create a nutrient-rich liquid fertilizer for roots and ornamentals.
Feed chickens garden scraps, weeds, and even sprouted seeds—no food should go to waste, and it enriches their lives and egg quality.
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Welcome & Introduction to Lisa Steele
Host introduces Lisa Steele, author of the 10th anniversary edition of *Gardening with Chickens*, and sets the stage for a conversation on backyard chicken-keeping and garden synergy.
Lisa’s Journey from Wall Street to Chicken Farming
Lisa shares her unexpected path—from working on Wall Street to becoming a chicken-keeping pioneer after getting chickens during the 2009 recession, launching a blog, and eventually writing a bestselling book.
Why the 10th Anniversary Edition Is a Brand New Book
“If I haven't learned anything in 10 years, that's pretty bad. I also moved from Virginia to Maine. So now I had cold climate experience as well as hot climate. So we basically just ripped the book apart. We started from ground zero and rebuilt the book basically.”
Chickens as Garden Partners, Not Pests
“They're little tiny tilling machines. You know, they kind of gently work the soil. They also eat bugs. They eat bug larvae. They eat weeds, you know, so there's these benefits and it just makes sense to really... get the chickens working in the garden.”
Practical Timing & Fencing Tips for Chicken-Garden Integration
“You're actually better off using like a plastic poultry netting or something with some metal stakes. They really have a hard time, you know, getting over. They need to go up perch and over.”
“I think not just, you know, penning in your chickens and fencing off your garden. Like just getting so aggravated with the whole thing that you don't take advantage. But I mean even if you can't let your chickens free range, you still can use their manure.”
“If I haven't learned anything in 10 years, that's pretty bad. I also moved from Virginia to Maine. So now I had cold climate experience as well as hot climate. So we basically just ripped the book apart. We started from ground zero and rebuilt the book basically.”
“They're little tiny tilling machines. You know, they kind of gently work the soil. They also eat bugs. They eat bug larvae. They eat weeds, you know, so there's these benefits and it just makes sense to really... get the chickens working in the garden.”
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