Organizing Zohran’s NYC w/ Alina Shen and Fahd Ahmed
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In this comprehensive episode of The Dig, hosts and guests delve into the transformative organizing strategies behind Zoran Mamdani’s mayoral campaign in New York City, spotlighting the pivotal roles of DRUM and CAV—two grassroots organizations rooted in South Asian and Asian immigrant communities. Fahd Ahmed of DRUM and Alina Shen of CAV reflect on how their neighborhood-based, multi-issue campaigns built mass working-class power in the wake of Trump’s election and Eric Adams’ indictment. They emphasize using the nonprofit form strategically to reach marginalized communities while maintaining critical distance, framing the mayoral race as a tactical tool within a long-term 'war of position' to constrain real estate power and expand rent control. Their door-knocking efforts, community institution partnerships, and media outreach drove historic turnout, and now, as Mamdani takes office, they navigate the delicate balance between inside-the-administration collaboration and outside movement pressure. The conversation centers on the need to build alternatives to policing through community investment and political education, recognizing internal contradictions within the NYPD as strategic openings rather than monolithic obstacles. They advocate for a materialist, non-moralistic approach to power, grounded in deep community relationships and long-term transformation of both policy and consciousness. The episode underscores that real change emerges from the interplay between grassroots mobilization and progressive governance. The rent freeze is not merely a policy demand but a transformative experiment in shifting the logic of real estate and empowering tenants, especially in vulnerable neighborhoods affected by basement apartments and climate risks. Alina and Fahd stress that movement success depends on maintaining independence from state power while collaborating with allies in office, fostering new coalitions like People’s Majority, and expanding participatory democracy in housing, education, and land use. They highlight the city’s unique position as a global real estate hub with strong tenant protections, creating a strategic contradiction to be pressed. Ultimately, the episode affirms that local organizing is a vital defense against federal authoritarianism, and that sustained base-building, experimentation, and alliance formation—rather than electoral or policy wins alone—are the true measures of progress. The hosts close with a call to action, urging listeners to support the movement and the podcast through subscriptions and contributions.
Organize the lowest layers of the working class in neighborhood-based bases to build transformative, mass-based power.
Use the nonprofit form strategically to gain legitimacy and reach marginalized communities while maintaining critical distance and ideological clarity.
Frame electoral campaigns as tactical tools within a long-term strategy to shift power, not as ends in themselves.
Balance inside-the-administration collaboration with independent movement pressure to maintain accountability and prevent co-optation.
Treat housing and rent control as transformative experiments that can rewire real estate logic and empower tenants.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
Introducing DRUM and CAV: Building Working-Class Power in NYC
“The people that we organize are cab drivers, street vendors, domestic workers, restaurant workers, construction workers, public high school students, CUNY students... the lowest layers of the working class in New York City.”
Organizing Theory and the Strategic Role of Ethnic and Neighborhood Bases
“Our people inherently bring some leanings towards a global orientation and trying to understand what happens here is related to what happens in our home countries.”
From Strategy to Victory: The Day One Endorsement of Zoran Mamdani
“We saw it as the opportunity to advance a left political project, to be able to bring left politics into our communities and into the city in ways that actually had not been possible.”
Navigating Power: The Left’s Role Inside and Outside the Administration
The conversation turns to the challenges of co-governing with a socialist mayor. The guests reflect on the need for a 'war of position'—building alternatives, maintaining independent pressure, and learning through trial and error. They discuss the tension between supporting the administration and holding it accountable, especially on issues like policing.
Navigating Contradictions in the NYPD and Building Strategic Alliances
“If we think that like, okay, every police officer is opposition, everything related to police is oppositional forces, we actually lose the opportunity to understand the distinctions, the disagreements, the nuances between them, and then how we relate to them.”
“There have to be victories that we fight for, our sweat, our tears have to go into it because the process of that struggle, the process of whether we win or lose transforms people.”
“There was this experience of thousands of tenants being brought face to face with agency heads whose main job was to take notes on what they were saying”
“Our people inherently bring some leanings towards a global orientation and trying to understand what happens here is related to what happens in our home countries.”
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Fahd Ahmed
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Alina Shen
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Zoran Mamdani
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NYPD
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CAV
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DRUM
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Eric Adams
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New York City DSA
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DSA
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People's Majority
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