Thomas Keneally: What’s next for the Schindler’s List author?
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At 90, Thomas Keneally—best known for *Schindler's Ark* and the book that inspired *Schindler's List*—is confronting the quiet crisis of creative silence. After a three- to four-month hiatus from writing, the first in his six-decade career, he grapples with aging, health setbacks, and a publisher’s rejection that forced him to abandon a non-fiction project he’d intended to novelize. In Sydney’s Manly, surrounded by beaches, hikers, and the memory of his late wife Judy, Keneally reflects on his legacy while drafting a new essay on Mungo Man, Australia’s 40,000-year-old skeleton—a figure he believes deserves national reverence. His writing process, once relentless (1,500 words a day), now battles fatigue, slow typing, and the emotional toll of being 'adrift' without a clear voice. Yet he remains defiant: his ambition is to write the greatest novel ever penned by a writer over 90. This episode captures not just a literary legend’s final act, but a raw, intimate meditation on mortality, purpose, and the stubborn belief that the next sentence might still matter. Keneally’s story reveals a profound truth: creativity doesn’t end with age—it transforms. The break isn’t a surrender, but a recalibration. His daily walks, audiobooks, and quiet rituals aren’t distractions; they’re the scaffolding of a mind still fighting to stay agile. The real drama isn’t in the words he’s not writing, but in the quiet determination to write them again.
Thomas Keneally is taking his first-ever writing break in over 60 years due to health issues and a rejected book project.
He aims to write the greatest novel ever by a writer over 90, despite feeling 'adrift' and 'miserable' without writing.
His new book on Mungo Man, Australia’s 40,000-year-old skeleton, seeks to elevate Indigenous history to national prominence.
Keneally uses daily bushwalks and audiobooks not as distractions, but as essential mental maintenance for his creative process.
He refuses to equate aging with creative death, stating: 'I’d hate to be at the end of writing now.'
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The Last Book at 90
“I'd hate to be at the end of writing now.”
The Writing Room: Chaos and Memory
Inside Keneally’s cluttered office, the author shows off his workspace—a black laptop in a corner, a desk piled with notes, a tiny Oscar from the film adaptation of *Schindler's List*, and a post-it from his granddaughter. The room is a museum of his life and work.
Mungo Man and the Rewriting of History
“If Mungo Man had been a pharaoh he would be one of the two or three most famous people in Australian history.”
The First Break: A Crisis of Voice
“I couldn't do it because people had bared their souls to tell you stuff on the understanding it was...”
Walking, Listening, and the Mind's Work
On a hike around North Head, Keneally explains how walking and listening to audiobooks are not breaks from writing, but essential parts of his creative process—keeping his mind sharp and his spirit alive.
“If Mungo Man had been a pharaoh he would be one of the two or three most famous people in Australian history.”
“The experience of writing a novel is the same whether you're 25 or 90.”
“I've got to get back to writing. To save myself.”
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Thomas Keneally
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Rachel Naylor
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Mungo Man
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Manly
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Schindler's Ark
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Judy Keneally
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North Head
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Montserrat series
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BBC World Service
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Baz Luhrmann
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