#104 - James Lindsay

The Eric Metaxas Show48mApril 24, 2026

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The episode delivers a blistering critique of the so-called 'woke right,' led by Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, who are accused of betraying the conservative movement by attacking Donald Trump and promoting conspiracy theories. James Lindsay exposes how these figures, once seen as allies, have become open enemies of MAGA, driven by personal ambition and a warped ideology rooted in critical theory. He argues they're not just wrong—they're actively dangerous, using tactics like manufactured outrage and false equivalencies to manipulate public perception. The central revelation comes from the FBI's indictment of the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC), which allegedly funded hate groups like the KKK to generate fundraising revenue, proving the left's long-standing use of 'boogeyman' narratives. Lindsay reveals how this systemic fraud has real-world consequences, including damaging reputations and blocking political opportunities—such as when his own SPLC profile derailed potential Senate testimony. The episode culminates in a damning portrait of a movement that has lost its moral compass, where truth is sacrificed for power, and where even the most absurd claims—like America being 'effectively North Korea'—are weaponized to delegitimize Trump. The takeaway? The 'woke right' isn't just misguided—it's a threat to the very foundation of conservative integrity.

Key Takeaways
1

The Southern Poverty Law Center was indicted by the FBI for allegedly funding hate groups like the KKK to generate fundraising revenue, exposing a decades-long fraud.

2

Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens are not 'MAGA allies' but open enemies of Trump, driven by personal ambition and a critical theory mindset that demands perpetual outrage.

3

SPLC hate profiles have real-world consequences—James Lindsay’s profile, based on joke tweets, blocked him from testifying before the U.S. Senate.

4

The 'woke right' uses 'critical theory' tactics: finding minor flaws in Trump’s behavior to justify dismantling his entire presidency.

5

Tucker Carlson’s claim that America is 'effectively North Korea' is not just false—it’s a sign of profound detachment from reality and disrespect for American patriots.

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Chapters
0:00
5 min

Introduction and the Rise of the 'Woke Right'

Eric Metaxas welcomes James Lindsay, praising him as a steady voice against the 'woke right.' The conversation opens with a critique of Tucker Carlson and Candace Owens, who are now seen as enemies of MAGA, not allies.

5:00
10 min

The SPLC Scandal: Funding Hate to Raise Funds

The FBI has dropped a multi-count indictment of the Southern Poverty Law Center... it very strongly appears that as a fundraising stunt, the SPLC was funding members of the specific hate groups that they decry.

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15:00
10 min

The Real Damage of SPLC Hate Profiles

The article they wrote about me is actually fantastic. I think it's one of the funniest things I've ever read. It opens up with a long series of in my own words and my own tweets that I had put on Twitter.

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25:00
10 min

Tucker Carlson’s Betrayal of MAGA

He was deeply grieved or something about having, you know, told people to vote for Donald Trump. And I thought that I'm glad he said it because that's all he needs to say. Now we know where you stand, Tucker.

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35:00
10 min

The Critical Theory Mindset of the 'Woke Right'

This is critical theory 101 behavior. These guys are critical theorists. This is why I was calling them woke right for the last couple of years for all the trouble that caused me because it's correct.

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High-Impact Quotes
If you go to North Korea and you publicly say what they're saying publicly, you will be imprisoned and tortured and probably killed. The fact that they're doing this on a podcast, nobody's shutting them down.
James Lindsay34:40
Viral: 90.0
the amount of damage that she's been doing very deliberately to the organization more or less since the day Charlie was murdered, I think literally from the day he
James Lindsay45:53
Viral: 87.0
This is critical theory 101 behavior. These guys are critical theorists. This is why I was calling them woke right for the last couple of years for all the trouble that caused me because it's correct.
James Lindsay31:44
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Host

Eric Metaxas

Guest

James Lindsay
Topics Discussed
southern poverty law center indictment95%woke right90%tucker carlson criticism88%candace owens controversy85%critical theory in media82%hate group fundraising80%tpusa attacks78%splec hate profiles75%
People & Brands

donald trump

person

25xMixed

southern poverty law center

organization

18xNegative

eric metaxas

person

15xPositive

tucker carlson

person

14xNegative

candace owens

person

13xNegative

james lindsay

person

12xNeutral

turning point usa

organization

10xNegative

charlie kirk

person

8xPositive

fbi

organization

6xNeutral

nick fuentes

person

5xNegative

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