President Donald Trump was a big fan of Queen Elizabeth II

The Excerpt15mApril 14, 2026

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This episode of USA Today's The Excerpt explores the complex and often underappreciated relationship between Queen Elizabeth II and the U.S. presidents she met throughout her 70-year reign. Host Wendy Novel interviews Susan Page, Washington Bureau Chief and author of 'The Queen and Her Presidents: The Hidden Hand That Shaped History,' who reveals that the Queen was not just a ceremonial figure but a shrewd diplomat who influenced global politics through personal diplomacy. The episode delves into pivotal moments—such as Truman calming a nervous young Elizabeth, Johnson’s refusal to meet her due to political and personal tensions, and Trump’s 2019 state visit marked by protocol breaches and a controversial brooch choice. Page shares that while Trump believed he was the Queen’s favorite, evidence suggests she held a deeper affection for Barack Obama, whom she called one of the 'giants of the 20th century.' The Queen’s subtle gestures—like wearing Michelle Obama’s brooch on the day Trump arrived—hinted at her political and emotional positioning. The episode also highlights how the Queen’s warmth toward Americans, especially during visits to California and Reagan’s ranch, contrasted with her more formal demeanor at home. Key takeaways include the idea that the Queen used personal diplomacy to maintain Britain’s global influence, that her relationships with presidents were strategic and emotionally nuanced, and that her choices—like wearing a gift from Michelle Obama—were deliberate signals. The episode underscores how a monarch’s quiet actions could carry significant weight in international relations. Despite the Queen’s public reserve, her private judgments and preferences shaped diplomatic dynamics in subtle but powerful ways.

Key Takeaways
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The Queen used personal diplomacy to maintain Britain’s global influence despite the decline of the empire.

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Her relationships with U.S. presidents were strategic, emotional, and often shaped by subtle gestures like jewelry choices.

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Trump believed he was her favorite, but evidence suggests she had a deeper connection with Barack Obama.

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The Queen’s decision to wear Michelle Obama’s brooch on the day Trump arrived was interpreted as a quiet political statement.

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She valued authenticity and warmth, especially with Americans, and often appeared more relaxed in the U.S. than at home.

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Chapters
0:00
2 min

Trump's State Visit and the Queen's First Impression

Could Trump charm her into giving him the honor of being her favorite American president?

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2:00
3 min

Why Susan Page Wrote the Book

Susan Page explains her motivation for writing 'The Queen and Her Presidents,' driven by the fact that Elizabeth II met more U.S. presidents than any other person in history, and she wanted to uncover the deeper impact of these encounters.

5:00
4 min

The First Meeting: Truman and the Young Queen

He reassured her the way he would have reassured his daughter Margaret, who was about the same age.

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9:00
4 min

Johnson’s Avoidance and the Carter Incident

She complained that he was the only man since her sainted husband to have kissed her on the lips.

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13:00
4 min

Trump’s Protocol Breaks and the Brooch Message

She chose to wear it for the only time in public after that on the day that Trump arrives in Great Britain for the first time.

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High-Impact Quotes
She told a friend that during her lifetime, she had met such interesting people. And the two people she mentioned were Mother Teresa and Barack Obama.
Susan Page11:46
Viral: 90.0
She complained that he was the only man since her sainted husband to have kissed her on the lips.
Susan Page7:59
Viral: 85.0
She chose to wear it for the only time in public after that on the day that Trump arrives in Great Britain for the first time.
Susan Page9:59
Viral: 80.0
Speakers

Host

Wendy Novel

Guest

Susan Page
Topics Discussed
Queen Elizabeth II and U.S. Presidents95%Diplomatic Relationships and Personal Influence90%Barack Obama and the Queen's Relationship88%Historical Diplomacy and Monarchical Power87%Royal Protocol and Public Perception85%Donald Trump's Visit to the UK80%Symbolism in Royal Fashion75%Cultural Differences in International Relations70%
People & Brands

Queen Elizabeth II

person

42xPositive

Donald Trump

person

28xNeutral

Susan Page

person

25xPositive

Barack Obama

person

18xPositive

Wendy Novel

person

15xPositive

USA Today

organization

8xPositive

Michelle Obama

person

8xPositive

Jimmy Carter

person

7xNegative

Buckingham Palace

place

6xNeutral

Lyndon B. Johnson

person

6xNegative

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