I Have Some Questions for the Democrats Who Want to Run California
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In this pivotal forum hosted by Ezra Klein, five top Democratic candidates for California governor—Tom Steyer, Javier Becerra, Katie Porter, Matt Mahan, and Antonio Villarregosa—engage in a deep, urgent conversation about California's worsening housing crisis. The discussion centers on the stark disconnect between ambitious policy goals and the reality of stagnant housing production, despite years of pro-housing legislation. Candidates debate the root causes of high construction costs, including labor standards, regulatory delays, and local resistance, while proposing bold solutions like modular housing, streamlined permitting, fee caps, and state-funded incentives. A recurring theme is the tension between local control and state accountability, with some advocating for stronger enforcement tools like builder’s remedy and others emphasizing carrots over sticks. The conversation also turns to homelessness, with candidates pushing for prevention-focused strategies, direct cash assistance, and innovative interim housing models that prioritize dignity and speed. The episode underscores a broader Democratic dilemma: how to deliver tangible results in a complex, fragmented system while maintaining progressive values. The candidates’ diverse approaches reveal a spectrum—from technocratic reform to bold political will—highlighting the need for both innovation and leadership to solve a crisis that defines California’s future.
Modular and off-site construction could reduce housing costs by 20% or more, but requires state-led demand and code changes to scale.
Local fees and permitting delays are major drivers of housing cost and time; caps and ministerial approvals can dramatically accelerate development.
Prevention is more effective and cheaper than reactive homelessness programs—direct cash assistance can keep families housed during crises.
Innovative interim housing with privacy, pet access, and local preference can gain community support and reduce unsheltered homelessness.
A unified, all-of-the-above strategy—combining market-rate, workforce, affordable, and transitional housing—is essential to solving the crisis.
The Housing Crisis: A Statewide Imperative
Ezra Klein sets the stage for a deep dive into California's housing crisis, emphasizing the gap between policy promises and actual housing production. He introduces the five top Democratic gubernatorial candidates and frames the discussion around the core question: how to turn good intentions into actual homes.
Cost Drivers: Labor, Materials, and the Construction Stack
“If we could get rid of the Trump taxes, the tariffs that are now being found illegal, that would help us reduce the cost of building materials.”
Speed and Bureaucracy: The 49-Month Delay in California
“Time is money. If Colorado can be 22 months faster, we could take 10 or even 20% off the price.”
Affordable Housing: Why It Costs More and How to Fix It
“Affordable housing developers are piecing together financing from seven different pools of money... One consolidated bigger pot of money would help.”
Local Resistance and State Power: The Role of Enforcement
The conversation shifts to the conflict between state housing mandates and local opposition. Candidates debate the effectiveness of lawsuits, the need for builder’s remedy, and the importance of incentives like funding prioritization for compliant cities.
“We're looking for perfect. And perfect doesn't exist. That's what happens when you have the kind of experience the two of us do.”
“There is nothing progressive about people living in their poop.”
“The very most effective way to keep someone in their home is to give them direct cash assistance, period.”
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Tom Steyer
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Javier Becerra
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Antonio Villarregosa
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The New York Times
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Katie Porter
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Matt Mahan
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Gavin Newsom
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RAND Study
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Buffy Wicks
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Irvine Company
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