Shadow Figures, Voices and Visitations Part Two | Grave Talks CLASSIC
In this gripping continuation of their conversation, paranormal investigator Mary Thomas reveals how air pressure spikes—particularly at levels of 7 or 12—are consistently linked to paranormal activity during investigations. She shares a powerful case from Shire Hall, a historic UK courthouse, where a collective presence was felt, followed by an EVP saying "down there"—a phrase that matched the exact location of her experience and was confirmed by a simultaneous air pressure reading of 12. This moment, captured on camera and environmental sensors, stands as one of her most compelling pieces of evidence. Thomas also discusses the evolving role of technology in spirit communication, from the SB7 radio experiment to modern apps and Ovilus devices, acknowledging both their potential and limitations. While she remains cautiously optimistic about the future of paranormal tech, she emphasizes that the real breakthrough may come not from devices alone, but from a global community of investigators finally uniting to validate what they’ve long sensed: that consciousness persists beyond death. The episode underscores a paradigm shift in paranormal research—moving from anecdotal encounters to measurable, repeatable phenomena. Thomas’s work with environmental data, particularly air pressure anomalies, offers a rare scientific lens on the unseen.
Air pressure spikes to 7 or 12 are consistently correlated with paranormal experiences, serving as a measurable environmental marker during investigations.
At Shire Hall, an EVP saying "down there" coincided with a 12 on the air pressure sensor and a shared feeling of presence, creating multi-modal evidence.
The SB7 radio experiment is Mary Thomas’s current favorite tool, producing coherent, contextually relevant messages when replayed, despite random-sounding real-time output.
Modern apps and Ovilus devices show 70-80% accuracy in some cases, but require careful interpretation—some messages are meaningful, others are noise.
The future of paranormal research lies in global collaboration, combining technology, data, and shared experiences to validate consciousness beyond death.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
Welcome Back: The Journey with the Dead
Tony Bruschi welcomes back Mary Thomas for part two of their conversation, setting the tone for a deep dive into her investigative methods and recent experiences with the paranormal.
The Spider Device: Measuring Air Pressure Anomalies
“We've recognised that when it hits a seven, that seems to be when we are having paranormal experiences.”
Air Pressure Spikes: Timing and Significance
The discussion explores how air pressure spikes are not sustained but short, sharp bursts that occur during EVPs or presence experiences, often rising rapidly and then dropping back.
The Shire Hall Case: A Convergence of Evidence
“We've captured an EVP and also confirming the feeling that we all had in the same area.”
Recreating the Experience: SB7 and the Communication Board
The team attempts to recreate the event using an SB7 radio session and a communication board, with the EVP appearing precisely during the explanation of the location.
“And it says meter. Yeah, yeah. You can't explain that, can you?”
“So we've captured an EVP and also confirming the feeling that we all had in the same area.”
“And we've recognised that when it hits a seven, that seems to be when we are having paranormal experiences.”
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Mary Thomas
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Shire Hall
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SB7
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Andy Guy
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Ovilus
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Tony Bruschi
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K2 meter
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