The Lightworker Who Helps Spirits and the Living, Part Two | Grave Talks CLASSIC
The guest, Kayla Ray, challenges the myth that spiritual cleansing is a one-size-fits-all ritual, arguing that the effectiveness of practices like smudging with sage depends entirely on the individual, the spirit's origin, and the intent behind the action. She reveals that while traditional tools like sage, salt, and crystals can help, they’re often ineffective against deeper spiritual attachments—especially those from non-human realms or multidimensional sources. Instead, she emphasizes personal power, clear intention, and energetic command as the real drivers of spiritual clearing. Her most provocative claim? That using marijuana or other substances for spiritual work isn’t inherently wrong—but it can attract unwanted entities if done without awareness. She urges listeners not to live in fear of spirits, comparing spiritual issues to plumbing problems: when something breaks, you call a specialist. The episode ends with a powerful reminder: life is messy, lessons are unavoidable, and healing begins not with ritual perfection, but with the courage to say, 'This no longer controls me.'
Spiritual attachments aren't always fixed by smudging—intent and personal power matter more than the tool used.
Sage isn't the only effective clearing agent; catnip, marijuana, or even a shower with intention can work if the energy is right.
Using substances like marijuana for spiritual work can attract entities if done without awareness and control.
You don’t need to fear every cemetery, drink, or emotional high—spiritual issues are manageable, not existential threats.
When spiritual problems arise, call a specialist—just like you’d call a plumber for a broken sink.
…and 3 more takeaways available in PodZeus
The Limits of Smudging and Rituals
“If you have something from another realm or dimension or, you know, just another place in general, just... that's not really going to cut it for you.”
The Real Power Behind Spiritual Tools
“It's the power of the energy that's really doing the work and the intent. Okay, so I could use catnip if I had the intent? Sure.”
Spiritual Issues Are Normal—Not Paranoia
Ray reframes spiritual challenges as part of life, not signs of personal failure. She compares them to practical problems like plumbing issues and urges listeners not to fear everyday experiences like drinking or visiting cemeteries.
“If you have something from another realm or dimension or, you know, just another place in general, just... that's not really going to cut it for you.”
“You call a plumber when you sink breaks. You call somebody like me when you have these spiritual issues.”
“It's the power of the energy that's really doing the work and the intent.”
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Kayla Ray
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sage
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Tony Bruschi
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marijuana
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catnip
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