3 & Out - NFL Offseason Mailbag: Browns-Rams Trade Dissected, Jared Verse's Ceiling, Andrew Berry's Rebuild Vision + Rams GM Les Snead's Art of the Big Swing

The Herd with Colin Cowherd1h 5mJune 3, 2026
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The trade of Myles Garrett from the Cleveland Browns to the Los Angeles Rams has ignited a firestorm of debate, but host John Middlecoff argues it was a bold, necessary move driven by Les Snead's fearless philosophy of 'taking big swings.' He praises Snead's relentless pursuit of elite talent, even at the cost of four first-round picks, a second, a third, and Jared Goff—calling it a masterclass in aggressive front-office management. Middlecoff contrasts this with the risk-averse corporate culture he once observed, where middle managers avoid change to protect their jobs, leading to long-term failure. He defends Andrew Berry's decision, emphasizing that Garrett's value was at its peak and that the Browns now have a young, high-ceiling edge rusher in Jared Verse, along with future draft capital. The episode also explores the intangible value of players like Verse, whose impact extends beyond sacks through run defense and setting the edge—qualities that don't always show up in box scores. Middlecoff concludes that while the trade is controversial, it reflects a mature, forward-thinking rebuild that prioritizes long-term championship potential over short-term sentiment.

Key Takeaways
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Les Snead's 'big swing' philosophy—using multiple high draft picks to acquire elite talent—is a defining trait of the Rams' recent success.

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Jared Verse's value lies not in sacks but in run defense, edge-setting, and creating constant pressure—skills that elevate an entire defense.

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The Browns' trade of Myles Garrett was a strategic move to capitalize on peak asset value, not a sign of weakness.

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Front-office success often requires rejecting the status quo and embracing risk, even when the team is already competitive.

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A player's true impact is measured by influence on the field beyond stats—like how Garrett's presence freed up teammates.

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Chapters
2:21
1 min

The Rams-Browns Trade: A Game-Changing Move

It's one of the biggest trades in NFL history. I'll kind of rehash some stuff that I've been thinking about.

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3:56
3 min

Les Snead's Philosophy: Fearless Deal-Making

You know what in life? Nothing is guaranteed. Landing Miles Garrett, Sean McVay said it today, guarantees you nothing.

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6:34
2 min

The Cost of Ambition: What the Rams Gave Up

A breakdown of the Rams' trade package—four first-round picks, a second, a third, and Jared Goff—emphasizing the high cost of Snead's bold strategy.

8:46
3 min

The Psychology of 'No': Why Success Requires Persistence

Most people do not have the mental fortitude or thick skin to handle it because even if you're a successful guy, you're getting told no constantly.

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11:35
2 min

The Browns' Rebuild: Why Berry Made the Right Call

If I knock on your door and double your home's value, you're going to think long and hard about it.

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High-Impact Quotes
But if I knock on your door and double your home's value, you're going to think long and hard about it.
John Middlecoff15:37
Because you know what in life? Nothing is guaranteed. Landing Miles Garrett, Sean McVay said it today, guarantees you nothing.
John Middlecoff5:22
Most people do not have the mental fortitude or thick skin to handle it because even if you're a successful guy, you're getting told no constantly.
John Middlecoff10:49
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John Middlecoff
Topics Discussed
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Les Snead

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Andrew Berry

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Sean McVay

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Aaron Rodgers

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