Joe and Jada - John Leguizamo on playing Pablo Escobar, 'Carlito's Way' & Latin representation in Hollywood

The Herd with Colin Cowherd58mApril 8, 2026

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In this episode of The Herd with Colin Cowherd, Joe and Jada welcome actor John Leguizamo for a candid conversation spanning his career, Hollywood representation, and his new Hulu series 'Dear Killer Nannies,' a Spanish-language drama based on the authorized story of Pablo Escobar. Leguizamo reflects on his iconic roles in 'Carlito's Way' and 'Empire,' discussing the authenticity of portraying Latin characters and the systemic barriers in Hollywood that continue to limit Latin representation despite the community's cultural and economic influence. He shares personal stories from his youth, including how 'Scarface' influenced his path and how he drew from real-life experiences to play Benny Blanco. The conversation turns to his portrayal of Escobar, where he emphasizes the complexity of the man—both a ruthless criminal and a devoted father—while critiquing how society mythologizes and profits from gangster figures. Leguizamo also reflects on the dangers of fame, the emotional toll of relationships, and the modern surveillance state, warning that technology now enables constant tracking through smart devices. The episode closes with a powerful message about legacy, identity, and the responsibility of storytelling.

Key Takeaways
1

Hollywood still underrepresents Latin talent despite Latinos making up 20% of the U.S. population and over-indexing at the box office.

2

Leguizamo's role in 'Carlito's Way' was deeply personal, based on real people and experiences from his youth in Spanish Harlem.

3

Pablo Escobar's legacy is complex—feared as a criminal, yet revered in Colombia through tourism and media, showing how society romanticizes villains.

4

The modern world is increasingly surveilled; drones, smart devices, and AI can track and predict behavior, making traditional gangster lifestyles obsolete.

5

True success isn't just wealth—it's the ability to walk away from danger and protect your family, even if it means cutting ties with the past.

Chapters
0:00
10 min

Hollywood's Latin Representation Crisis

We're still like, we're 20% of the population. We over-index at the box office at 30%. We're a third of sports fans. Where is our 30% of the movies, of the casting, of the executives? Where is that?

Highlight
10:00
10 min

From 'Carlito's Way' to Real-Life Gangster Roots

I based it on somebody directly because that's why I had that kind of fire and juice.

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20:00
10 min

The Scarface Effect: When Movies Shape Reality

Leguizamo reveals he initially disliked 'Carlito's Way' because he thought it was a sequel to 'Scarface'—a film that deeply influenced his youth and even led to real-life criminal behavior among his peers.

30:00
10 min

Playing Pablo Escobar: A Complex Legacy

He hugged his son, kissed him, said I love you publicly and everything. He got caught cause of his family. Say what?

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40:00
10 min

The Psychology of Power and Legacy

The conversation explores how names carry weight—being born into a notorious family like Gotti or Escobar can brand a person as a criminal before they even act. Leguizamo reflects on how Escobar’s son escaped the legacy by changing his name and becoming a psychologist.

High-Impact Quotes
They're going to use your ring in your house. You're going to use your nest in your house. your whatever stupid vacuum cleaner, the Zumba, Roomba thing. They're going to use all that to look at you, find you, GPS you and you're going to be controlled.
John Leguizamo54:44
Viral: 92.0
They still making money off this man that they murdered. And they called him a criminal and they assassinated. And he was the biggest shit in the world.
John Leguizamo44:01
Viral: 90.0
He hugged his son, kissed him, said I love you publicly and everything. He got caught cause of his family. Say what?
John Leguizamo36:51
Viral: 88.0
Speakers

Hosts

Joe Crack the DonJada Kiss

Guest

John Leguizamo
Topics Discussed
Latin Representation in Hollywood92%Pablo Escobar's Legacy89%Hollywood Systemic Bias87%Gangster Lifestyle and Reality85%Surveillance and Technology83%Family and Legacy80%Authenticity in Acting78%Storytelling and Mythmaking75%
People & Brands

John Leguizamo

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120xPositive

Pablo Escobar

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65xMixed

Fat Joe

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50xPositive

Joe Crack the Don

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45xPositive

Jada Kiss

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38xPositive

Carlito's Way

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28xPositive

Scarface

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25xMixed

Empire

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22xPositive

Hulu

organization

15xPositive

Al Pacino

person

12xPositive

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