THE HERD - Hour 2 - Channing Frye stops by The Herd
Channing Frye, the 13-year NBA veteran and former Knicks player, joins The Herd to dissect the fiery NBA Finals series between the Spurs and Knicks, arguing that the Knicks' defensive strategy of targeting big men like Victor Wembanyama and Channing's former teammate, Karl-Anthony Towns, was a calculated, aggressive move that backfired. Frye defends Wembanyama's physicality, calling it 'part of being a big' and comparing it to legends like Shaq and Kareem, while criticizing the Knicks for failing to react with equal intensity. He highlights the psychological toll of constant physicality on young stars like Jalen Brunson, noting that 'you can only allow people to do so much all the time to you before you say, just get the F off me.' Frye also reflects on his own career, sharing that his best game in New York came when he took 28 shots after a fight, saying, 'You gotta shoot. He can't take me out.' He praises Madison Square Garden as 'theater' and 'art,' calling it the most electric arena in basketball. As the World Cup begins, Frye and Colin Cowherd debate whether the U.S. team should be pressured to grow the sport, with Frye arguing that 'let's just enjoy this' five-week vacation from mainstream sports. He believes the U.S. can realistically reach the quarterfinals and even beat a top nation like Germany, calling it a 'major win' that would validate the team's progress.
Wembanyama's physicality in the NBA Finals is not a foul but a strategic necessity—'part of being a big' like Shaq or Kareem.
The Knicks failed to match the Spurs' aggression; their lack of reaction allowed San Antonio to control the series through psychological warfare.
Jalen Brunson's efficiency is being undermined by Stephon Castle, but the real issue is that the Knicks aren't getting Cat involved offensively.
When a player is physically overwhelmed, 'you can only allow people to do so much all the time to you before you say, just get the F off me.'
Madison Square Garden is not just a venue—it's 'theater' and 'art,' the most electric arena in basketball, with a unique New York energy.
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Channing Frye Joins The Herd
Channing Frye, 13-year NBA veteran, joins the show to discuss the NBA Finals, his time in New York, and the physicality of the game.
Defending Wembanyama's Physicality
“When you're a big, your job is to establish position on the block and the NBA in the postseason Channing allows for almost ridiculous levels of physicality against bigs. And I'm like, you know what? Sometimes the lion swats a bird just because, and my take is this is part of being a big hack a Shaq.”
The Knicks' Failure to React
“You cannot allow somebody else's best player to mush your best player, right? Yeah. You know, it's interesting. The Knicks complained about free throw percentage. But they were 25th in the league this year in free throw attempts. This is who they are. They were hacking. Stop it.”
The Mental Toll on Brunson
“If you look at that game, if I'm if I have to look back and see what the Spurs said at the beginning of that game, they say, yo, we go F them up. We have to hate them. You look at what Carter Bryant was doing to Cat. You look at what Stephon Castle was doing to Cat. You look at when Kilden Johnson came in the game, what he was doing to their players, right? They decided to hit first and New York went, oh, and then tried to react.”
Frye's Best Game in New York
“It was after the fight and there was only seven of us. So I was like, well, you gotta shoot. He can't take me out.”
“I said, when you're a big, your job is to establish position on the block and the NBA in the postseason Channing allows for almost ridiculous levels of physicality against bigs. And I'm like, you know what? Sometimes the lion swats a bird just because, and my take is this is part of being a big hack a Shaq.”
“You can only allow people to do so much all the time to you before you say, just get the F off me.”
“And then, you know, I want to see quarterfinals. I want to see I would look at success for this team if they make it to the quarterfinals and. And they have a major win. And by that, I mean they beat the team that they're not supposed to be right.”
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stephon castle
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