S8 Ep1009: Benjamin L. Carp explains how the British specifically targeted three rebel captains—Amos Fellows, Abraham Patton, and Abraham Van Dyk—suspecting them of arson. Patton, a member of Washington's spy network, allegedly confessed on the gallows, stating he d

The John Batchelor Show10mJune 15, 2026
AI-Generated Summary

The Great New York Fire of 1776 wasn't just a disaster—it may have been a calculated act of wartime sabotage. In this episode of The John Batchelor Show, historian Professor Benjamin Karp presents a compelling, though circumstantial, case that three American captains—Amos Fellows, Abraham Patton, and Abraham Van Dyk—were either directly involved in or sanctioned for setting fire to New York City during the Revolutionary War. The British suspected them specifically, and Patton’s dramatic gallows confession—echoing lines from Joseph Addison’s play *Cato*, a favorite of George Washington—suggests a martyrdom for liberty. What’s more striking is that Washington himself later honored all three men: eulogizing Patton, recommending Van Dyk for a naval captaincy, and advocating for Fellows’ release. Yet Washington never admitted authorizing the fire, only hinting that 'providence' had done what the army hadn’t. The episode raises a haunting question: did the Founding Fathers secretly endorse urban arson as a strategic necessity? Karp’s research reveals a web of circumstantial evidence—cut fire bucket handles, sabotaged pumps, and the targeting of loyalist officers who were later celebrated as patriots. The fact that Washington, Hancock, and Congress all supported these men’s families after their deaths, despite their alleged arson, suggests a deeper, unspoken endorsement. The episode ends with General Guy Carleton’s 1783 inquiry into the fire, still unresolved.

Key Takeaways
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Three American captains—Amos Fellows, Abraham Patton, and Abraham Van Dyk—were specifically targeted by the British for allegedly setting the 1776 New York City fire.

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Abraham Patton confessed on the gallows that he died for liberty, echoing lines from Joseph Addison’s *Cato*, a play George Washington admired.

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George Washington publicly honored all three men posthumously, including eulogizing Patton and recommending Van Dyk for a naval captaincy.

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Despite no direct admission, Washington hinted that 'providence' had done what the army failed to do—implying tacit approval of the fire.

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The British conducted a formal inquiry in 1783, but no conclusive evidence was found, leaving the fire’s origin a mystery.

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Chapters
0:04
1 min

The Lost Story of the 1776 New York Fire

John Batchelor introduces Professor Benjamin Karp, author of *The Great New York Fire of 1776*, and sets the stage for a deep dive into the mystery of whether the fire was an accident or a deliberate act of war.

1:00
1 min

Amos Fellows: The Captured Captain

Fellows, a Connecticut captain in the Continental Army, was jailed after the fire and died in prison. Though never admitting guilt, he was celebrated by colleagues and may have been a spy.

2:12
2 min

Abraham Patton: The Spy Who Confessed

I die for liberty and do it gladly for my cause is just.

Highlight
4:11
2 min

The Legacy of Patton and the Washington Connection

Despite Patton’s confession, Washington eulogized him, Congress voted for his widow’s support, and his legacy was preserved—suggesting official, if quiet, endorsement.

5:53
3 min

Abraham Van Dyk: The Paroled Captain

Van Dyk, a New York tavern owner and militia captain, was captured, imprisoned for 18 months, and later recommended by Washington for a naval captaincy—despite British accusations of arson.

High-Impact Quotes
I die for liberty and do it gladly for my cause is just.
Abraham Patton6:10
But the British Army definitely accuses him of either having been setting the fires or having been part of the planning to burn New York,
Benjamin Karp9:14
No, Washington never confesses to having done this.
Benjamin Karp9:42
Speakers

Host

John Batchelor

Guest

Benjamin Karp
Topics Discussed
great new york fire of 177698%american revolution95%founders moral compromises88%george washington spy network85%revolutionary war strategy80%historical conspiracy theories75%circumstantial evidence in history72%cato play70%
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John Batchelor

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Abraham Patton

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Amos Fellows

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Abraham Van Dyk

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General Guy Carleton

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