S8 Ep952: (5) Timothy Ryback recounts how the November 1932 defeat leaves the Nazi Party in a state of gloom, leading many to believe Hitler is "washed up." However, political desperation drives Franz von Papen to reach out to Hitler, hoping to salvage his own unpo
After Hitler's crushing defeat in the November 1932 election—losing two million votes and dropping to 32-34% support—the Nazi Party is plunged into despair, with Goebbels grim and the entire movement seemingly on life support. Yet, in a stunning political reversal, former Chancellor Franz von Papen, desperate to form a functioning government under President Hindenburg, reaches out to Hitler, hoping to exploit his weakened state. Instead, Hitler sees an opportunity: he refuses to cooperate, writing a scathing letter accusing Papen of squandering public trust. The real turning point comes not in negotiations, but in a bizarre, almost farcical moment on a night train to Berlin, where Hitler is abruptly pulled from his cabin—still in his nightshirt and bare-legged—by Göring and Goebbels, forcing him to abandon his meeting with Schleicher. This 'underwear scene,' mocked in cartoons and denied by Nazi propaganda, became a symbol of internal party chaos and Hitler’s indecision. But rather than damaging him, the incident backfired, amplifying his image as a man of action. The episode reveals how Hitler’s political survival wasn’t due to strength, but to the desperation of his rivals and the chaos within his own movement. His final rise wasn’t a triumph of ideology, but a collapse of the system around him.
Hitler’s November 1932 defeat cost him 2 million votes, leaving the Nazi Party demoralized and many believing he was finished.
Franz von Papen, the most unpopular chancellor in German history, reached out to Hitler out of political desperation, not respect.
Hitler rejected Papen’s overture, writing a letter accusing him of squandering public trust—showing he saw the crisis as an opportunity.
The infamous 'underwear scene' on the night train to Berlin was not a failure, but a moment of internal party chaos that Hitler used to his advantage.
Nazi propaganda denied the incident, but the denial only amplified its spread, turning a humiliating moment into a symbol of Hitler’s unpredictability.
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The Aftermath of Hitler's Defeat
The Nazi Party is in disarray after losing 2 million votes in the November 1932 election, with Goebbels despondent and the movement seen as finished.
Papen's Desperate Outreach
Former Chancellor Franz von Papen, under pressure from Hindenburg to form a coalition, reaches out to Hitler despite their mutual disdain.
Hitler's Scathing Rejection
“I will not, you know, basically I'll have nothing to do with you. Hitler smells blood.”
The Hindenburg Meeting
Hindenburg calls Hitler for a private meeting, but the conversation ends in stalemate, with no resolution on power-sharing.
The Underwear Scene: Chaos in the Train
“Hitler was pulled out of his cabin in the morning, still in his night shirt with his bare legs, with his prickly hair sticking out. I mean, it's an absolutely absurd scene.”
“Hitler was pulled out of his cabin in the morning, still in his night shirt with his bare legs, with his prickly hair sticking out. I mean, it's an absolutely absurd scene.”
“And he said, I will not, you know, basically I'll have nothing to do with you. Hitler smells blood.”
“It illustrated, I think in the most graphic way possible, the tensions and the most humorous way possible. The tensions within the party, but also Hitler's waffling.”
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franz von papen
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paul von hindenburg
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joseph goebbels
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timothy ryback
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hermann göring
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arthur schleicher
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otto strasser
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