S8 Ep987: Gregory Copley reports on a rare Ebola outbreak and jihadi threats in Central Africa. He notes that local governments fail to fund necessary healthcare infrastructure, relying instead on outside aid. Additionally, Copley details the ongoing Ethiopian civi

The John Batchelor Show14mJune 10, 2026
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A rare and deadly Ebola outbreak is spreading across Central Africa, with cases reported in the Democratic Republic of Congo, Uganda, and Ethiopia—despite no confirmed cases in Ethiopia yet. The virus, a previously unseen variant, is proving difficult to detect and contains a 100% fatality rate without intervention. What makes this crisis uniquely dangerous is not just the disease itself, but the convergence of Ebola with active jihadist insurgencies linked to ISIS and al-Qaeda, which thrive in the same conflict zones where healthcare infrastructure has collapsed. The World Health Organization’s director, Dr. Tedros Ghebreyesus, is criticized for prioritizing Chinese influence over African public health leadership. Meanwhile, Ethiopia remains mired in civil war between the federal government and the Fano militias, backed by Eritrea, while global powers like the U.S., Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Turkey jockey for influence over access to the Red Sea. The U.S. has shifted from supporting the TPLF to backing the central government after its military victory—demonstrating a strategic pivot rather than ideological consistency. Crucially, the episode reveals a systemic failure: African governments are not funding their own disease defenses, relying instead on 70% foreign aid, particularly from the U.S., creating a fragile, unsustainable model.

Key Takeaways
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Ebola’s new variant is 100% lethal without intervention and harder to detect than past strains.

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70% of Ebola defense funding comes from outside Africa, with local governments failing to invest in infrastructure.

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Jihadist groups like ISIS and al-Shabaab exploit conflict zones, but their presence may actually hinder disease spread by creating no-go areas.

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Ethiopia’s civil war involves Fano militias backed by Eritrea, with the U.S. now supporting the central government after previously backing the TPLF.

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Global powers including Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Turkey are competing for influence in Addis Ababa over Red Sea access.

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Chapters
0:16
1 min

The Dual Threat: Ebola and Jihad in Central Africa

The jihadis represented by ISIS, Allied Defense Forces, the ones that are mentioned in the FT story, and by al-Qaeda and its related organizations such as Al-Shabaab and Sabaya.

Highlight
1:28
1 min

The Lethality and Uniqueness of the New Ebola Variant

It is 100% lethal unless there's intervention.

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2:41
1 min

The Funding Crisis: Foreign Aid Over Local Investment

The governments of Ebola affected areas are not funding the infrastructure for Ebola defense. That's a frustration to nature magazine. It's certainly a puzzle to me.

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3:40
1 min

Why Ebola Burns Out Quickly in Conflict Zones

Ebola outbreaks tend to burn out fast in chaotic areas due to rapid contagion and high mortality, but containment is only possible with strong intervention.

4:34
1 min

The Role of Military Containment: Lessons from Sierra Leone

The British military’s tight containment in Sierra Leone during the 2014 outbreak was key to controlling the spread, highlighting the need for early, forceful intervention.

High-Impact Quotes
It is 100% lethal unless there's intervention.
John Batchelor1:45
I would say, distinctly failed in this regard, largely because he spent most of his career taking money from the People's Republic of China to essentially control the narrative on the great outbreaks of 2021 and 2022.
John Batchelor8:43
At the same time, the governments of Ebola affected areas are not funding the infrastructure for Ebola defense. That's a frustration to nature magazine. It's certainly a puzzle to me.
John Batchelor2:56
Speakers

Host

John Batchelor

Guest

Gregory Copley
Topics Discussed
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