Hour 4: NASA is sending astronauts to the moon again tomorrow

The John Curley Show32mApril 1, 2026

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The John Curley Show dives into two major stories in this episode. First, investigative journalist Glenn Morgan from We The Govern exposes a systemic conflict of interest involving Washington State Senate Majority Leader Jamie Peterson, who profits personally from legislation he helps write—particularly the Climate Commitment Act—while simultaneously serving as a top executive at McKinstry, a company that secures massive no-bid government contracts. Morgan details how Peterson’s financial disclosures show he earns $250k–$500k annually from McKinstry, owns a 1% stake, and benefits from dividends tied directly to laws he authored. Despite the clear ethical breach, the practice is technically legal due to loopholes in state ethics laws, which Peterson himself helped weaken. The episode also critiques the lack of accountability, noting Peterson sits on the very ethics board that could investigate him. Later, the show shifts to space exploration, previewing NASA’s Artemis 2 mission—the first crewed flight of the Orion capsule to the moon—set for launch the next day. Host Joe frames the mission as a pivotal step toward Mars, a race against China, and a symbol of human innovation and inspiration, though he humorously mocks the media spectacle surrounding it, including the astronaut’s appearance and the perceived over-the-top hype.

Key Takeaways
1

State lawmakers in Washington can legally profit from legislation they write if they own less than 10% of a company, creating dangerous conflicts of interest.

2

Jamie Peterson’s company, McKinstry, saw its state contracts grow from $4M to $40M after he authored laws that funneled public funds to his business.

3

Ethics enforcement is compromised when the same officials who write the rules also sit on the oversight boards meant to hold them accountable.

4

NASA’s Artemis 2 mission is a historic test flight of the Orion capsule, launching tomorrow, marking humanity’s return to the moon and a step toward Mars.

5

The U.S. is in a strategic race with China to establish a lunar presence, with potential long-term goals including helium-3 mining for clean energy.

Chapters
0:00
2 min

Introduction and Guest Setup

The show opens with a playful banter between hosts John and Joe, introducing Glenn Morgan from We The Govern as a key guest. The tone is lighthearted but sets up the serious investigative work to come.

1:50
8 min

The Insider Grift: Jamie Peterson and McKinstry

It's just endless coincidence, especially when there's about six laws like this that he's written that directly come back to the company that he worked for as the primary sole source no bid contractor.

Highlight
10:00
8 min

Ethics Loopholes and Institutional Capture

You can get in trouble for posting the wrong Facebook TikTok video during the let's save session, and you can get fined $5,000 for a Facebook post... but you can go and do this and have... millions of dollars coming into your tens of millions of dollars in your business and ultimately, over a number of years, millions of dollars into your own personal back pocket.

Highlight
18:20
7 min

The Climate Commitment Act: A False Promise

They were off by 98 percent and they had to adjust it down to a pathetic and probably unsubstantiated little minor level that they claim of carbon they actually removed for the small price of a billion dollars.

Highlight
25:00
7 min

Artemis 2: Humanity’s Return to the Moon

The episode concludes with a shift to space exploration, highlighting NASA’s upcoming Artemis 2 mission—the first crewed flight of the Orion capsule. Host Joe frames the mission as a bold step toward Mars, a race with China, and a symbol of human ingenuity and inspiration.

High-Impact Quotes
You can get in trouble for posting the wrong Facebook TikTok video during the let's save session, and you can get fined $5,000 for a Facebook post... but you can go and do this and have... millions of dollars coming into your tens of millions of dollars in your business and ultimately, over a number of years, millions of dollars into your own personal back pocket.
Glenn Morgan14:20
Viral: 90.0
They were off by 98 percent and they had to adjust it down to a pathetic and probably unsubstantiated little minor level that they claim of carbon they actually removed for the small price of a billion dollars.
Glenn Morgan15:59
Viral: 88.0
It's just endless coincidence, especially when there's about six laws like this that he's written that directly come back to the company that he worked for as the primary sole source no bid contractor.
Glenn Morgan11:48
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Hosts

John CurleyJoe

Guest

Glenn Morgan
Topics Discussed
Government Corruption95%Ethics and Conflict of Interest90%Climate Commitment Act85%NASA Artemis Mission80%Public Accountability75%Lobbying and Influence70%Space Exploration65%Media and Reality TV60%
People & Brands

Jamie Peterson

person

25xNegative

McKinstry

organization

18xNegative

Climate Commitment Act

other

15xNegative

Glenn Morgan

person

12xPositive

NASA

organization

8xPositive

Artemis 2

other

7xPositive

We The Govern

organization

6xPositive

China

place

6xNeutral

Hard Knocks

media

6xPositive

Orion Space Capsule

other

5xPositive

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