Lawfare Archive: When Lawyers Spread Disinformation
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This episode of The Lawfare Podcast, originally aired on August 5, 2022, examines the role of legal discipline in holding lawyers accountable for spreading disinformation during the 2020 U.S. election aftermath. Host Quinta Jurassic interviews Paul Rosenzweig, a legal ethics expert and board member of The 65 Project, which tracks and seeks accountability for attorneys involved in efforts to overturn the election. The discussion centers on how state bars and judicial ethics systems can discipline lawyers for making knowingly false claims in court, particularly in the context of the 65 frivolous lawsuits filed post-election. Rosenzweig explains the mechanics of legal discipline—ranging from investigations by bar counsel to adjudicative hearings and potential disbarment—and emphasizes that while the process is limited in scope and slow, it serves as both a specific and general deterrent. He argues that the courtroom, despite its imperfections, remains a space where truth is more rigorously enforced than in political or public discourse, especially when compared to the rampant falsehoods spread by figures like Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell, and Ted Cruz. The episode also addresses the First Amendment’s role, clarifying that lawyers are not protected from discipline for false statements made in court or while representing clients, even if those statements are politically motivated. Key takeaways include: (1) Lawyers can be disciplined for knowingly making false claims in court, even if they’re zealously advocating for a client; (2) The legal discipline process is reactive, slow, and often under-resourced, but it can still serve as a deterrent; (3) The 65 Project aims to hold not just high-profile attorneys but also lesser-known 'foot soldiers' accountable; (4) False claims made during attorney-client representation—especially when the lawyer has affirmed they reviewed the evidence—are particularly serious; (5) Courts have proven more resistant to political pressure than other branches, helping preserve the integrity of the electoral process. The episode concludes with a call for public vigilance, noting that milestones like the filing of formal complaints are the best indicators of active disciplinary efforts.
Lawyers can be disciplined for knowingly making false claims in court, even when zealously representing a client.
The legal discipline process is reactive and slow but serves as a deterrent to future misconduct.
The 65 Project targets not just famous lawyers but also lesser-known attorneys who participated in election-related fraud schemes.
False statements made during attorney-client representation—especially after claiming to have reviewed evidence—are especially culpable.
Courts, despite ideological differences, uniformly rejected baseless election claims, showing the judiciary’s role as a bulwark against disinformation.
Introduction: The 65 Project and Legal Accountability
Marissa Wall introduces the episode from the Lawfare Archive, highlighting the disbarment of John Eastman and setting the stage for a discussion on lawyers who spread disinformation about the 2020 election.
The 65 Project: Holding Lawyers Accountable
“The 65 Project is named after the 65 lawsuits that President Trump and his supporters filed after the election, all of which they effectively lost. Its mission is to call to account the attorneys who participated in that effort.”
The Legal Discipline Process: How It Works
Rosenzweig walks through the mechanics of legal discipline in D.C., from complaints to investigations, adjudication by hearing examiners, and final decisions by the D.C. Court of Appeals.
The Limits of Legal Discipline
“The legal ethics process is a good but not great vehicle for doing this. The first limit... is that it bumps up against this zealous advocacy idea that is at the core of representing a client.”
The First Amendment and Lawyer Speech
“You don't have – the courts can impose gag rules in criminal cases. They can impose discipline for lying in court. And the First Amendment does not bar that.”
“You don't have – the courts can impose gag rules in criminal cases. They can impose discipline for lying in court. And the First Amendment does not bar that.”
“When you're an attorney representing a client, you may not make statements that you know to be false statements of fact in support of your representation.”
“The courts proved the most resistant during the Trump era... It was comforting to see that uniformity in the rejection of President Trump's absurdities.”
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Guest
Paul Rosenzweig
person
The 65 Project
organization
Rudy Giuliani
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Quinta Jurassic
person
Sidney Powell
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John Eastman
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District of Columbia Bar
organization
Ted Cruz
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Dominion Voting Systems
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Texas State Bar
organization
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