Lawfare Daily: Crypto, Corruption, and Cons, with Ben McKenzie
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In this episode of Lawfare Daily, host Michael Feinberg interviews actor, director, and journalist Ben McKenzie about his new film and book, 'Everyone is Lying to You for Money' (originally titled 'Easy Money'). McKenzie recounts his journey from crypto newcomer to vocal critic, detailing how his initial curiosity in Bitcoin during the pandemic evolved into a deep investigation into the industry's systemic corruption, criminal use, and ideological flaws. He dismantles the core arguments in favor of cryptocurrency—such as financial inclusion and decentralization—by exposing its reliance on speculative gambling, lack of real-world utility, and facilitation of illicit activity, including money laundering, sanctions evasion, and child exploitation. McKenzie highlights the role of celebrities, financial journalists like Michael Lewis, and political figures in legitimizing crypto through paid endorsements and legislative influence, revealing a powerful, well-funded lobbying machine that has infiltrated both major parties. He argues that crypto is not a neutral technology but a fundamentally flawed social construct that undermines trust in institutions and enriches corporations at the public's expense. Despite the film's serious themes, McKenzie emphasizes its lighthearted tone and calls for public awareness and accountability. Key takeaways include: 1) Cryptocurrency functions primarily as a speculative investment or tool for crime, not a real currency; 2) The 'greater fool theory' and behavioral economics explain the irrationality of crypto investing; 3) Regulatory capture by the crypto industry—especially through massive political contributions—has corrupted both Republican and Democratic lawmakers; 4) The idea of 'trustless' money is a myth, as all systems depend on human actors and trust; 5) The CIA's interest in crypto for covert operations underscores its real-world utility for illicit finance. McKenzie urges audiences to reject the hype and recognize that crypto is not a revolutionary financial tool but a modern-day Ponzi scheme built on deception and greed.
Cryptocurrency is primarily a speculative investment or tool for crime, not a functional currency.
The 'greater fool theory' and behavioral economics explain why crypto attracts irrational investors.
The crypto industry has achieved political influence through massive lobbying, including over $200 million in the 2024 cycle.
Regulatory capture has corrupted both parties, with Democrats supporting crypto-friendly legislation like the Genius Act.
The idea of 'trustless' money is a myth—crypto still relies on human developers, code, and social trust.
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The Myth of Crypto as Money
“All cryptocurrency is, is computer code stored on ledgers called blockchains that obscure the identity of the people that are transacting. But if it's just computer code that doesn't actually do anything in the real world, then you're sort of just investing in the idea of it, right? Or you're using it to commit crime.”
The Birth of a Crypto Critic
McKenzie recounts his personal journey into crypto, beginning with a bad investment advice from a friend in 2020. His skepticism grew as he realized Bitcoin couldn't function as money. He began writing articles with journalist Jacob Silverman, eventually leading to a book and film that expose crypto's role in fraud and criminal activity.
Crypto as a Gambling Machine
“I use an example in the book where the difference between limited supply and scarcity. Imagine I owned the rights to all the dog shit in Brooklyn... It is just dog shit. And that's what I would say crypto is economically. It's a vehicle for crime. And as an asset, it's dog shit.”
The Real Cost of 'Decentralization'
“If the money doesn't come from the government, where does it come from? The answer is corporations. In the case of cryptocurrency, it's not just World Liberty Financial, Donald Trump's corporation that issues his currencies, but it's also Bitcoin. The overwhelming majority of the Bitcoin that are mined currently are mined by multi-billion dollar corporations...”
The Role of Celebrities and Media
“You know, celebrities have always shilled products. I have fun in the movie. You know, even my wife is an actress has done hair commercials before. There's nothing wrong with celebrities shilling, you know, consumer products... But a financial shilling of financial products is a very different thing.”
“I use an example in the book where the difference between limited supply and scarcity. Imagine I owned the rights to all the dog shit in Brooklyn... It is just dog shit. And that's what I would say crypto is economically. It's a vehicle for crime. And as an asset, it's dog shit.”
“The crypto industry has spent enormous amounts of money. I'm talking like over $200 million in the 2024 cycle. There's a group that did a study that estimated that something like 40-something percent of all corporate contributions in the cycle came from the crypto industry alone. That's more than the defense industry and pharmaceuticals and all of them combined.”
“It's not just the Republicans who are, have been co-opted by the crypto lobby. The Genius Act, which was a bill that was passed last year that allows corporations to issue their own currencies in the form of stable coins. A hundred Democrats voted for that...”
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Michael Feinberg
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Sam Bankman-Fried
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Michael Lewis
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Bernie Moreno
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