TLP Interview with Helena De Groot, Audio Producer and Sound Artist
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In this intimate and deeply moving episode of The Lonely Palette, host Tamara Vichai interviews audio artist Helena de Grote about her groundbreaking eight-part series Creation Myth, which explores the complex, often contradictory decision of whether or not to have children. Through a masterful blend of personal memoir, innovative sound design, and emotional honesty, Helena unpacks the creative process behind her work—revealing how music and silence are used not just as accompaniment, but as narrative tools that shape meaning, foreshadow emotion, and create profound intimacy with the listener. She shares how her upbringing in a musical family shaped her sonic sensibility, and how she draws inspiration from literary and oral history traditions—particularly the work of Nobel laureate Svetlana Alexievich—to craft a story that is both hyper-specific and universally resonant. The conversation evolves into a meditation on doubt, loss, control, and the courage it takes to be vulnerable, ultimately revealing that the most human stories are not about answers, but about the messy, ongoing journey of being present with uncertainty. Helena’s journey—from self-doubt and fear of self-indulgence to a place of quiet certainty—offers a powerful reminder that empathy begins with honesty, and that the most meaningful art emerges from the willingness to let go of control and share the seams of one’s life.
Vulnerability is not self-indulgence—it’s the foundation of connection. The more specific your story, the more universal it becomes.
Sound design is not decoration—it’s narrative architecture. Music can foreshadow, contradict, underline, or even wink at the listener.
Doubt is not the enemy of certainty; it’s the companion of a life lived with intention. The goal isn’t to eliminate doubt, but to learn to live with it.
The most powerful stories are not about grand decisions, but about the quiet, everyday moments that reveal who we are.
True empathy begins with being present for your own complexity—only then can you extend that presence to others.
The Art of Letting Go: Introducing Creation Myth
“Like, this is the phase of the project where I let go of control. Not the thing I'm best at, you know? But this is for me an exercise in letting go of control, so I'm going to give you the reins.”
The Sound of Life: Crafting a Sonic World
“I love that you can do all that with music. So that's the technical part. The practical part is... I use a database called APM, and it's a giant sinkhole of a place.”
The Power of Silence and Subtext
“I would violate her experience if I were to use sad music. And we hear her talk. We hear her talk and it's in Dutch and you're translating and you can hear the emotion in your voice, but not in hers...”
Literature as a Compass: Drawing from the Unseen
Helena reveals that she drew inspiration not from other memoirs, but from oral historians like Svetlana Alexievich—whose work she admires for its ability to weave together countless voices into a living tapestry of history. She explains how this approach taught her to explore big questions through small, specific details, making the personal feel universal.
The Courage to Go Deep: Navigating Self-Doubt
“The deeper you go, the less indulgent it will be. And so every time that I got scared that I was being too navel-gazy or too, you know, like, oh, who cares about that detail? I would look at that quote and strengthen myself.”
“The only place we can reach out to others from is the self. That's just how it is, you know? And it is only by being really grounded and really aware and kind and nuanced with ourselves, not rigid... that we can extend this hand to other people.”
“I have decided, and I'm very happy with my decision. And also life is... Can I swear? Oh, of course. Life is weird as fuck. And you never know.”
“I would violate her experience if I were to use sad music. And we hear her talk. We hear her talk and it's in Dutch and you're translating and you can hear the emotion in your voice, but not in hers...”
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Creation Myth
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Svetlana Alexievich
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The Lonely Palette
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