Revisiting the Michael Jackson Allegations, and Blake Lively's DOOMED Legal Strategy, with Mark Geragos and Matt Murphy | Ep. 1315

The Megyn Kelly Show2h 11mMay 12, 2026

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In this three-part episode of *The Megyn Kelly Show*, Megyn Kelly, joined by defense attorney Mark Geragos and legal analyst Matt Murphy, delivers a scathing critique of both the cultural revival of Michael Jackson’s legacy and Blake Lively’s recent legal strategy. The discussion begins with a deep dive into the $600 million-grossing biopic *Michael*, which omits the child molestation allegations that defined Jackson’s later life—prompting speculation about legal and financial pressures from accusers and their families. Geragos, who defended Jackson in his 2003 trial, questions the credibility of key accusers like Wade Robson and James Safechuck, citing inconsistent statements, prior denials, and financial motivations posthumously. The Casio family’s sudden shift from defenders to accusers is also scrutinized, raising concerns about trauma manipulation and long-term psychological effects. The hosts condemn documentaries like *Leaving Neverland* for omitting key credibility issues, calling them more propaganda than journalism. The conversation then pivots to Blake Lively, whose $400 million defamation lawsuit was dismissed by Judge Louis J. Lyman. Kelly and her guests dismantle the narrative that her legal team secured a 'victory' by pursuing attorney’s fees under California’s anti-SLAPP statute, arguing it’s a strategic move to shield lawyers from malpractice claims through private mediation. They further criticize Lively’s ego-driven litigation and public persona, suggesting her behavior undermines her victim narrative. Despite the controversy, the episode concludes with a reflection on the enduring power of Jackson’s music, which continues to thrive through the MJ musical, Cirque du Soleil, and a blockbuster film—demonstrating how cultural memory and financial incentives often eclipse legal and moral reckoning in shaping celebrity legacies. The hosts emphasize the complexity of legacy, the emotional resonance of art, and the public’s willingness to separate the artist from the accused, even posthumously.

Key Takeaways
1

The Michael Jackson biopic 'Michael' omits abuse allegations, likely due to legal and financial pressures from accusers and their families.

2

Wade Robson and James Safechuck’s credibility is undermined by inconsistent accounts, prior denials, and financial incentives after Jackson’s death.

3

Blake Lively’s pursuit of attorney’s fees after her defamation lawsuit dismissal is seen as a strategic shield for her legal team, not a genuine victory.

4

The sexual harassment claim in Lively’s lawsuit was legally flawed, based on a non-existent contract, and reflects ego-driven litigation rather than victim advocacy.

5

Michael Jackson’s estate is experiencing a financial and cultural resurgence through successful ventures like the MJ musical and Cirque du Soleil, indicating public appetite for his legacy despite controversy.

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Chapters
0:00
30 min

The Michael Jackson Biopic and the Legacy of Controversy

It kind of gives the watcher permission to just think about him in the best light. Amazingly and very coolly, he's played by his nephew, Jafar Jackson, who is Jermaine, Michael's brother's son.

Highlight
30:00
30 min

Jackson’s Upbringing, Abuse Allegations, and the Bashir Interview

That interview so... It was so used against him or weaponized against him that it ended up fueling the fire that was the DA. It ended up being kind of the wind at the back of the prosecution, and he never recovered from it.

Highlight
1:00:00
40 min

Credibility of Accusers: Robson, Safechuck, and the Casio Family

If you're the defense lawyer and you find that fact, you can only imagine what you're saying to your associates at the time. Yeah, it's not ideal.

Highlight
1:35:02
5 min

The Flawed Legal Strategy Behind Lively's Attorney's Fees Claim

The push for attorney’s fees under anti-SLAPP may be a strategic move to protect her legal team from malpractice claims by entering private mediation.

Highlight
1:40:00
0 min

The Ethics of Documentary Storytelling and Blake Lively’s Legal Spin

The episode critiques the manipulation of facts in *Leaving Neverland*, calling it a docudrama rather than a documentary. Kelly and Geragos then turn to Blake Lively’s legal team, accusing them of misleading the public by rebranding a routine attorney’s fee recovery as a 'victory' in her settlement.

High-Impact Quotes
If you want my non-legal answer... yes, the public will allow it. And the fact that it has exceeded everybody's expectations... tells you all you need to know.
Mark Geragos127:12
Viral: 90.0
That interview so... It was so used against him or weaponized against him that it ended up fueling the fire that was the DA.
Megyn Kelly24:25
Viral: 90.0
It kind of gives the watcher permission to just think about him in the best light.
Megyn Kelly18:28
Viral: 85.0
Speakers

Host

Megyn Kelly

Guests

Mark GeragosMatt Murphy
Topics Discussed
Michael Jackson's Legacy and Public Perception95%Michael Jackson Legacy95%Blake Lively's Legal Strategy90%Documentary Ethics85%Anti-SLAPP Statute and Attorney's Fees85%Cultural Impact of Iconic Music85%Michael Jackson's Cultural Legacy80%Accuser Credibility80%Parental Responsibility and Child Safety80%
People & Brands

Michael Jackson

person

142xMixed

Mark Geragos

person

66xPositive

Matt Murphy

person

34xPositive

Blake Lively

person

22xNegative

Wade Robson

person

20xNegative

James Safechuck

person

18xNegative

Casio Family

person

12xMixed

Martin Bashir

person

10xNegative

Judge Louis J. Lyman

person

8xNeutral

Brian Friedman

person

6xPositive

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